[THE ASTROLOGER’S DIARY] 2026 Will Test Astrologers | Donny Lim & Ian Altosaar

0:00challenging and barely surviving. Let’s let’s put it this way. [laughter]

0:06I think business has kind of slowed down since late last year to be honest. My

0:14ascendant is in Virgo. A Libra Libra rising Aries moon Leo sun.

0:21So it’s a bit of a So the beginning of the year my AdSense account that was um

0:27let’s say related or connected to everything all my astrology basically overnight it got you know [music]

0:32cancelled. Let’s put it this way. I think there’s just more stringent controls in terms of potent well this

0:40actually carries on into 2026 like content that’s potentially rage baiting.

0:45Oh. Oh okay. Because JPD can just crawl your website and take all the information. Now

0:52but but but the but the problem is also like it goes there it it crawls your website and it gives the person your

0:58vision and information. I mean the whole thing regarding intellectual property it it it throws

1:04into question what is [music] really yours at the end of the day cuz not to forget that you know like now Pluto is

1:10uh transiting over the sign of Aquarius. So is diametrically opposing

1:17the sign of your own creativity. Leo. Unfortunately, this business or this kind of like spiritual helping type

1:23people is not safe from this. So, this is when I’m hearing this, this sounds

1:31super [music] insane to me. Choosing people because they have more followers like like it’s like it’s insane because

1:39followers can be bought, comments can be bought, [music] likes can be bought, everything can be

1:44manufactured. remember that cuz it’s so easy to use social media numbers as

1:50[music] your currency and you get sucked into that black hole and you start being like disingenuous or inauthentic [music]

1:57as a result. The agendas that are being pushed on us or upon us uh are so

2:05strong. If you notice yourself going with very strongly into some sort of

2:11some form of agenda that is being pushed upon you from the outside, I think it’s

2:17going to be a bad route to go [music] towards or to go on. The worst is over.

2:25[laughter] How do you plan to present yourselves as

2:32astrologers from 2026 on?

2:43[music] Okay, welcome back to another backstage

2:49astrology episode. My name is Maria Medina and as you know, we’re doing a small marathon. We’re asking astrologers

2:56how was 2025 for them personally and of course as astrologers. And today I am

3:01very happy to be with professional astrologers Don Lim and Ian Altosar the

3:06freedom astrologers. Guys I’m so happy to have you have you guys with me and the audience to talk about some lessons

3:13from 2025 personal lessons lessons as astrologers. How are you guys today?

3:19Thanks for being here. I’m good. I’m very good. Thanks. Thank you for having us. I mean, the worst is over. [laughter]

3:30Okay, so we have um Donnie, you’re joining us from Singapore, correct?

3:35Yeah. And Ian, where are you currently? I’m currently still in Estonia, my home

3:41country. Great. So guys, we are um talking to you from three different countries. I think

3:46that’s pretty awesome, you know. That’s really cool that we have astrologers from all over the world. So guys tell us

3:52the truth. You know one year ago we started listening to predictions for 2025 and we were you know personally I

4:00was hearing that this going to be the year of transformation and it’s going to be like a portal year and it’s going to

4:07be like a part of like a transition we’re beginning as a collective. So guys, tell us the truth. How was it for

4:13you? For you personally and as an as an astrologer, who wants to start?

4:19I’ll start with a phrase. Uh, not thriving, just surviving. Wow. Okay. Ian, you want to share

4:26something? I would. Yeah, I would be pretty pretty similar. Challenging

4:32and barely surviving. Let’s let’s put [laughter] it this way.

4:38Guys, how about you also share with us so maybe the audience can relate your your sun sign, your rising sign, and

4:44your moon sign. I mean, I know I already had you previously in the podcast, but maybe for those who are just joining,

4:50can you share with us your three your big three? My sun’s in Gemini.

4:57Uh my moon’s in Taurus. My ascendant is in Virgo. And

5:04I’m a very strong placidus 9inthouser cuz my sun, moon, and chart ruler are

5:10falling all in a ninth house. Placidus. Interesting. Okay.

5:16Okay. For you, Ian, you’re rising a Libra, Libra rising,

5:22Aries moon, Leo sun. So, it’s a bit of a here and there type of chart.

5:29Interesting. Okay. We have an Aries moon. So, Saturn and Neptune are going

5:35to visit your natal moon. [laughter]

5:41Okay. I mean, luckily it’s a conjunction, but uh yeah, anything moon Saturn related.

5:46Lucky it’s a little bit [laughter] and for Donnie, Donnie, you’re a Virgo

5:53rising. That means that the South Node was kicking you in the butt a little bit

5:58maybe this year. Well, and also Saturn. Yeah. Okay. Partly in the other on the

6:03other side, right? For Pisces. Yeah. And uh but I think the most

6:09important one is Uranus for me. Of course, I mean it’s going to move into Gemini. So guys, if I could ask

6:16you, how would you describe your 2025 in one word or one phrase? How would you

6:23close it up? I think for me it’s it’s like

6:28just pain. Just a lot of pain. Wow. Okay. Okay. Interesting.

6:35So um do you want to share some main challenges you faced personally or as an

6:40astrologer during this year? Some challenges that you know you know were

6:46painful uh personally or not. If anything you want to share with us. I think business

6:53has kind of slowed down since late last year to be honest. But then is uh I take

7:01it as kind of like a blessing to kind of learn more new things and just kind of brush

7:07up cuz you know as astrologers the learning journey never stops. So I’ve

7:13picked up a few new like techniques I I would call it and kind of incorporate it

7:18into my practice and uh you know I’m always in a state of like Virgo like refinement

7:25of my skill set. So that that’s kind of left me with like a breathing space for that. So I’m kind of

7:32glad but overall business has become um quieter. Yeah. Since late 2024.

7:41Why do you think that is Don? Is it related to AI or just like personally not feeling um you know like you don’t

7:49want to be in the spotlight too much? Like how why why do you think it’s has been that challenging?

7:54I think because it’s like it’s a combination of uh I mean I can combine

8:01numerology with like Chinese astrology. This year is the Chinese year of the snake. So we are shedding skin.

8:07Yeah. And it’s a collective numerology year nine as well. So we are going through this kind of completion cycle

8:13and there’s just a lot of like old gunk I think we are trying to shed.

8:20Interesting. Yeah. Ian for you uh any main challenges you face maybe in a specific area of your

8:26life or professionally? Yeah there were a lot. So I I’ll give you like the headlines. Uh basically I think

8:33it was the start of the year immediately. Uh so basically those of you know you know your YouTube account

8:40uh gets monetized through AdSense. So Google AdSense and also your websites if

8:45they serve ads um for example I have multiple websites if they serve ads the

8:51money comes usually from AdSense that’s the basis Google AdSense um so the

8:57beginning of the year my AdSense account that was um let’s say related or connected to everything all my astrology

9:05videos all my YouTube all my astrology websites it got uh basically overnight

9:10it got you cancelled, let’s put it this way. And without any warning, I got one

9:16appeal that was immediately like uh burned down. Uh so it meant basically

9:22all my work was now demonetized. I couldn’t get paid for for anything

9:28basically like from from ad from an ad point of view, ad revenue point of view. And you know, Google just said, you

9:35know, nothing basically. So I was blamed I think I was blamed for like uh enticing

9:42clicks by user which I didn’t do. I appealed they talked to the supports etc etc. So basically that was a bit of a

9:48blow and that was one of the reasons why I haven’t maybe used my normal freedom

9:54astrology channel that much because Google just says you know you can’t get paid anymore. Uh so that was I I took it

10:01pretty hard and I kind of like because I made a prediction um when Saturn was going into Pisces

10:07I made a prediction that uh public I made that prediction that all all these types of like spiritual businesses

10:13spiritual people astrologers also who are in in that realm will have these

10:19types of things happen like uh blockages um you know uh even like business

10:24slowing down at times um even I would say like these shadow shadow bands. I would say it’s it’s a

10:31really big topic and it has I’ve heard from I’m not the only one. I’ve had people very close to me who who are also

10:37in that type of business had the same thing happen to them and really weird charges like uh I don’t want to go in

10:44there but like uh many astrologers many these types of people have had their businesses kind of like blocked almost.

10:52Um so that I would say that’s that’s from an astrology perspective. I’m I’m getting over it. I’m you know starting

10:57new things. So it’s it is what it is. It is in this during this time I think you need to really uh almost like roll with

11:05the punches and move on otherwise it’s you know you can’t get too stuck in it.

11:10Personally definitely a huge challenge for me. My um so I have two sons both of

11:16them are quite young so that has taken a lot of let’s say focus energy vitality

11:23just time uh to nurture them to give them everything they need to kind of like start their own lives and and have

11:31everything they need. So, I think that’s I think it’s underrated and and people who maybe don’t have children and um

11:38maybe even people there’s I’ve noticed judgments like, “Oh, you can’t do that

11:43or you can’t do that.” Yeah, just I don’t have the energy. I’m going to bed at 7, man. You know, so it’s it’s a

11:50little bit of a different type of uh um I’ve had to restructure my life around

11:57that as well. So, it’s been a definitely a challenge. Okay. And so the parenting maybe was

12:02kind of like a you know a challenge uh for you plus all the um what you’re what you’re saying about the limitations for

12:10spiritual workers on YouTube or or social media. Donnie, have you have you heard about any other case related to

12:16these limitations for um astrologers or spiritual coaches online or in social

12:22media? Is there anything? Oh yes. I mean I know someone whose um revenue got cut basically the the

12:29demonetization aspect of things and um I think there’s just more

12:35stringent controls in terms of potent well this actually carries on

12:41into 2026 like content that’s potentially rage baiting.

12:46Oh. Oh okay. Uhhuh. Because when I actually see um Saturn entering Pisces,

12:53there’s going to be some um polarity point

13:00I see division something of that aspect. I think like finally when transit Saturn

13:05is like getting out of Pisces like their certain controls which is Saturn coming

13:12into kind of um stamp down Saturnian as well onto

13:19this kind of like divisive um type of content but this can be like

13:24a blanket kind of approach and I think there’s uh there’s a limit how much AI I

13:33is able to like scan through your content to kind of decipher for that. Wow. Okay. So, let’s dive maybe a little

13:40bit into AI because I heard from other interviews also that it has been a topic for some astrologers because now the the

13:48clients are now asking Chajip about you know astrological stuff. So guys tell us

13:54what’s your um your opinion? Where do you think it’s all going? I mean it’s going to happen and it’s happening. So,

14:01how are you dealing with this um as an astr as astrologers?

14:06Ian, go ahead first. I’ve got my opinions.

14:12So, definitely I have had, you know, one of my regulars sometimes um kind of like sends me like the interpretation from

14:19chat GPT and ask me for my opinion and I’m saying like, “Oh, this is completely messed up. Obviously, that’s not, you

14:26know, valid at all.” So that stuff happens but like in general it’s getting better. It’s starting to understand it

14:32understands the basics obviously. So you can get a lot of the basic ideas of a

14:38storage of any uh industry of any knowledge any skill you can get it from AI. So from from me where it’s going I

14:46think um what I foresee and right now there’s going to be push back and there’s going to be fight and people are

14:52going to be fighting it and astrologers is going to be fighting it but I don’t think there’s any point in fighting it

14:57fighting it personally but I where I where I see uh it should be going and

15:03where I sh where I see what astrologers should be doing is they would be

15:08building their own versions of of of or models of their information and keep

15:15that to themselves. Basically, this is what I see. This is what I believe. This is uh some ideas are already forming for

15:23myself. Obviously, I I have a techn technological background. So, I I’m able to build these things now. Everybody can

15:29mostly build these things. It might just take a little more time. So, this is where I where I see it going. And I

15:35don’t think there’s much um you know you can fight a little bit but it it’s kind

15:40of like it serves no purpose like think of a think of any other technological

15:46innovation like uh printers you know are who uses a printer nowadays like a little bit people still use have to use

15:54it but like these things are moved you know everything is mostly digitalized

15:59you can do everything online so it t it takes time it uh brings up a lot of fear

16:04There’s a lot of anger obviously, but like so some of the things I wouldn’t do is is is I’ve

16:10noticed myself also like almost be more stingy with putting everything out in

16:16the open uh for you know the AI models because chat GPT can just crawl your

16:21website and take all the information. now [laughter] but but but the but the problem is also like it goes there it it crawls your

16:28website and it gives the person your vision and information about it and it

16:33also gives them their link so they can click their link and go to your website as well. So it’s it’s a little bit of a

16:38you know um I don’t think there’s much purpose in in fighting it and I think that’s where

16:44we’re headed kind of. Wow. Don, you have any thoughts about you know AI? I think I do agree with Ian

16:52in terms of like it’s going to be more uh privately subscription based if you have something to offer,

16:58right? And that’s to actually prevent uh your stuff being like merged into the whole

17:03AI uh white net of crawling information all over the web

17:11just to like turn for you some kind of reply so to speak. And um

17:19I mean the whole thing regarding intellectual property it it it really is about um it throws into question what is

17:27really yours at the end of the day cuz not to forget that you know like now

17:32Pluto is uh transiting over the sign of Aquarius. So it’s diametrically opposing

17:40the sign of your own creativity Leo. Right? So, it’s almost like taking your

17:46Leonian sense of creativity and just kind of blast it, you know, uh out there with or

17:55without taking into account your own intellectual property, right? That made me think about um Ian,

18:03for example, he has a Leo son, right? Have you felt this Pluto, you know, on

18:10the other side? Um how has it been for you? Um if if you want to share some anything.

18:16Um I mean luckily it’s still a little ways away. My sun is at uh 11 degrees

18:22and my Mercury’s in Kazimi. So it’s both are in Leo in in in um 11 on 11° sorry

18:31yet uh because it’s made a positive aspect to my Jupiter trying to my

18:36Jupiter is more being positive but like the actual like the Pluto there in the fifth house what it’s what it’s made me

18:43do it’s kind of made me uh understand the things that we’re saying here it’s kind

18:49of made me understand and think about and go deeper into these things to to basically be prepared to change and kind

18:57of alter my business in a you know very unique way you know be people have to do

19:03it astrologers have to do it other businesses have to do it because it’s influencing all of us so I think I’m

19:08going into that and and the things I want to build for the future are more

19:13line along the lines that we’re discussing here it’s a little bit more you know personalized um and and you

19:21know again building that personalized model for that specific astrological

19:28part that I know the most of. It’s it’s kind of like going into that direction basically.

19:34Thank you guys. Do you feel that with all what’s happening with AI and and you know it’s not a bad thing. I think it’s

19:40you know as you said we need to adapt just like the printer or like you know electricity when it was you know new. Do

19:47you think that now as astrologers you’ll have to be more niche like to just you

19:53know solve a specific problem or target a specific I don’t know branch of astrology or something like that? What

19:59do you think? I think it’s even more important for astrologers once they w want to become

20:05professionals to define their niche or niches what they are like known for

20:12because I think to um really stand out in this kind of uh

20:20Pluto in Aquarius sphere it becomes harder to like I mean

20:27honestly anyone can claim that they are an astrologer because altogether is

20:33uh an unregulated market. I mean, I personally went to school for

20:39it, a proper school for it. I’ve done my paid my dues, so to speak, but you’ve got people who like took a few online

20:46courses and call themselves an astrologer and just feel like BS. Yeah. Yeah. Big challenge there also

20:52with social media, which is amazing. It’s freedom but you know where is the responsibility sort of thing or the

21:00integrity? Um yeah I mean sometimes like when I think about the last few years the kind of content I

21:07come across sometimes and I mean not to be like a total but sometimes I

21:13think to myself like oh my god there’s room for everybody.

21:20Right. Yeah. I’ll leave you as that. [laughter]

21:26Right. I think it also comes with a responsibility from us viewers or you

21:32know expectators or the audience to actually question not only the astrology but also everything online because today

21:37we don’t know what’s real. So yeah it’s like a a challenge and a course at the

21:42same time. It’s helping everyone but at the same time everyone has a voice which is awesome. You know the sun shines for

21:49everyone. there’s like a say but going through more narrowing about you know

21:55about 2025 Ian is there one transit that

22:00hit you hard during 2025. Yes. Yes. There is one very hard transit

22:07and it was Saturn in Pisces because I I’ll tell you really quickly Saturn in Pisces right now we’re ending Saturn in

22:14Pisces it’s again coming to square my ascendant ruler my almutin and my

22:22Uranus. So it’s squaring everything at the same time. It’s at the tip of the like it’s forming a T-square basically

22:29it’s the tip of the T-square in the sixth house. So that everything I told you about like uh you know the everyday

22:35duties, responsibilities with the parenting but like the even like um because it’s

22:41like the how do I put this the first house ruler and the al for me first house almut and

22:48it’s um both are your body and in in this case it’s my body like the physical

22:53body. So I’ve literally had my energy it’s that it takes so much energy out of you everyday duties the

23:00work duties the responsibilities uh so my energy has been much much lower

23:06than I would say normally and when we had you remember when we had that uh stint when both Saturn and Neptune went

23:13into um Aries for a little while uh tropical Aries so that for me was like a

23:18breather I felt like a bre fresh breath of air I got like to breathe it again. I

23:24had this kind of surge of big energy and wanted to do um well many things and and

23:30I’m I’m really waiting for this Saturn to get out of Pisces. Interesting. I also felt a little bit

23:36the same now. It went back to Pisces and I’m like, “Oh, like it’s like I’m drowning or something, but when it was

23:42in Aries, it was like yeah, like I I felt more motivated.” But anyway, I’m

23:48I’m a Taurus rising. I don’t know. Maybe. But Donnie, for you now it’s your turn. What is one big lesson from 2025

23:57both personally and as an astrologer if you want to share? Oh, I think the the key word here is

24:05surrender for me in 2025. Maybe because I’m in my 12th house perfection period

24:12[snorts] and 12th house is all about really like uh just finish up whatever that’s

24:17unfinished business-wise and let go and let be. If some things are meant to like

24:22be let go of and just crash on their own, then so be it.

24:28I I guess it’s also linked back to like the transit Saturn in Pisces because it’s about letting reality slip away

24:35because whatever that’s not meant for you needs to go. [snorts] Beautiful.

24:40Yeah. So, on the positive side, maybe we’ve been a little bit um um griefing. What’s

24:46one one good thing I mean I’m included. One good thing that you know 2025

24:52brought you maybe Ian was there a transit that you were like okay this is my lucky moment or this transit brought

24:59me serenity peace abundance can you you want to share like if you remember or

25:05recall any transit? Yeah, definitely. [clears throat] I think um Jupiter um in

25:10Cancer I think that was I I’d say mostly positive for me although it opposed my

25:16Neptune a little bit there. Um it’s still conjunct my part of fortune which was lovely actually. It’s I really it

25:24happens every 13 years. So it’s not a really off. It doesn’t happen that often obviously it finishes quite quickly

25:31which is unfortunate but that was really because mine is like depending on you look at it where where you look at what

25:37house system you look at it’s either in the ninth or 10th house. So um you know

25:43but it’s also cancer. So a lot of my happiness in in any way comes from my

25:48family, you know, nurturing, caring uh for my family and building a family and teaching obviously. Uh but like hugely

25:57that transit was was very very and still is I would say big with my family. have

26:02really understood how important it is to have a family for me personally to have

26:08children to nurture the to give them energy to um to build something up for

26:14the future you know to to give something for the future generations and I’m I’m not saying you have to do that for everybody but like from seeing like

26:20these little you know boys growing up and giving them knowledge giving them uh everything has filled me personally as

26:28well with a lot of um I would say abundant being and enjoy. Yeah, definitely

26:35beautiful. Johnny, is there uh you know where was the jackpot for you this year if there was any trans?

26:40I think uh [sighs] that was when Uranus, Saturn and Neptune ingress into

26:48very early degrees of their signs because uh it directly impacted my chart ruler and also my nodal axis.

26:55Wow. Okay. So uh that period when Uranus uh was an early Gemini and Saturn and

27:04Neptune ingress into early degrees of Aries, things kind of eased up a lot

27:09more for me before they retrograded back into Taurus and uh Pisces respectively.

27:15Things got a bit muddy, you know. Um, but of course I’m looking forward to

27:202026, but that’s still like a big fat question mark uh pertaining to 2026 for

27:27me. Yeah. Wow. But that was like the period of highlight because that’s when I spent uh my

27:33Jupiter return. My Jupiter’s in Cancer. Ah. Uh and um I relocated to spend my

27:39Jupiter return elsewhere just to get the angles right. [gasps]

27:45[laughter] Where do you go? Uh, Madrid. Ah, Spain. Spain. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

27:51Great. That’s really cool. So, for 2026, guys, are there any transits that you’re cautiously

27:59preparing personally and collectively? And which ones?

28:05Yeah. You want to start? You look constipated. [laughter] I mean, I mean, that’s a good word. I

28:12would say that’s a good word, right? [laughter] Um well I’m still let’s say I’m cautiously

28:20optimistic about the Saturn Neptune conjunction. Um I’m a little bit like uh when I look at

28:26it from a very kind of logical traditional look at the aspects look at oh Pluto is sexing there’s a lot thing

28:33good good things happening then I’m like oh yeah this might be good this might be good. Um, but when I’m more into, let’s

28:42say, this intuitive feeling sense, when I’m looking at at forward to it, it doesn’t um it doesn’t feel and seem as

28:51amazing as it might be. So, I’m a little bit cautious of it. I’m a little bit

28:57worried about it. I’m still there’s a lot of question marks for me about the

29:02control, the manipulation, the disillusionment of people and and the

29:07manipulation of people. I think it’s it’s we’re being fed all of these very

29:16strong perspectives from all over the place. So when you go online, when you

29:21look at the news, when you listen to everything, it’s a very very detrimental

29:27um flow of information I believe. And especially if you’re more sensitive intuitive and I think for me these

29:34Neptunian Saturnian energies, they can be almost too much. Um and I

29:41think we’ve had this, you know, we’ve had this almost tiny bits of bites of this conjunction already. And I’ve

29:49obviously it was kind of like in Pisces than in Aries. It’s it’s a different tea text or taste

29:56in Aries, but I’m definitely a little bit worried that that that part that the

30:01war for our consciousness, the manipulation into our brains is getting worse and

30:07worse and worse. The the things that are being, let’s say, suppressed and oppressed almost like put into our

30:14consciousness are dangerous. and the way it’s being served and being like put on

30:20a plate. I I don’t think I like it and I’m making steps to kind of like live a

30:25different type of life. So, um but that’s where I’m a little bit like can it be almost I I’ll finish this with

30:32this one. It’s almost like can this be like this final ending of this pain and

30:37suffering on our planet? And I’m like I don’t know, you know, [laughter] maybe

30:43maybe. Yeah. It’s like kind of like is it really like the final or or are we just

30:48getting started? This is how I feel sometimes in a way, right? Like I don’t

30:54know. Donnie, what about you? What transit are you cautiously watching, expecting, preparing for 2026?

31:02personality. I mean, um, picking piggy back off like Ian’s like Saturn and Neptune meeting up

31:10in Aries transit, I do see there’s a lot more um rules and

31:16regulations regarding monetization possibilities for the content that you put out.

31:21It’s more easily to get demonetized than monetized. Put it that way. [snorts]

31:26I do see that more in 2026 well into 2028 actually when well as

31:33long as Saturn is still in Aries. Um but what I’m seeing is more of like the

31:39financial aspects of things because uh I don’t know if uh you guys

31:45know there’s this like uh financial astrology book that’s written by Louis

31:50Mac wits. I think that’s what she’s called. Uhhuh. and she tracks the economic

31:57activities or cycles using the transit north node. Oh. Oh, it’s her

32:05wither. Wthers. Yeah, I think that’s how it’s pronounced. And next year we do have transit northnote entering Aquarius

32:12which is probably the shittiest. Oh, and at the same time there’s a there’s a

32:18triple whmy actually. Mhm. The double whmy here will be transit Chiron entering Taurus.

32:27Right. The third whammy is Uranus in Gemini cuz this links us back to the late 1920s

32:35when the great depression happened 84 years ago. Wow. Interesting. Oh, transit north in Aquarius, transit

32:43Chiron in Taurus, transit Uranus in Gemini. it uh all this

32:48tree added up together. I don’t see it being like a prosperous year. Put it that way. Especially in the second half.

32:56Yeah. Yeah. It’s all fixed signs in the end as well. So like except Uranus.

33:02Except except Uranus. You’re right. I’m sorry. Except Uranus. Except Uranus. Interesting. And you guys are talking

33:08about this in in your YouTube channels. Don Ian, you’re you’re also done some work together that I loved. So can you

33:15share more about that? Are you going to continue doing things together or not?

33:20Oh yes, we we also have a webinar coming out. We have a we are doing a webinar. This this is more like a you know deeper

33:28psychological webinar. This is about narcissism, deep secrets of nar narcissism revealed in astrology. So

33:35we’re doing that and I think it’s going to come out somewhere January May. I I

33:40think in February 2026 that’s more better. Yeah. much needed. No, because

33:46also we’re going to have this Aries energy which you know it’s a little bit the self but you know how you want to

33:53navigate that self you know it can be one well it’s actually more about Pluto in

33:59Aquarius cuz the axis of Leo and Aquarius is very much tied to narcissism but in different ways

34:05really covert or overt that axis really plum Aquarius and Leo

34:13one is overt one is covert But they both refers to some form of narcissism because because of that

34:21god- saving complex is embedded into the axis but it expresses itself in different ways.

34:28Yeah. We’re going to show some charts that can be mu escandal. [laughter] Yeah.

34:38I think it’s a great preparation for also for because we’re even we’re seeing in well for example in Latin America

34:44we’re seeing these governments these autocracies um portray as democracies

34:50with certain with certain how you say heads of state right

34:55uh yeah and did you want to say something like I no okay so that’s amazing guys of

35:01course I’m going to leave their information below in the description in case you want to check out this um is it

35:07going to be a webinar or like a course or a live? We want to do it live and then we’re

35:12planning on doing it live because we want to do interactive. We want you guys to have the possibility to bring us

35:18charts and show so show show us charts and basically read them with us as well like say oh you know this person has uh

35:25you know sun with north node conjunction in Leo you know what do you think you know

35:30amazing amazing thank you guys for organizing that so now we’re going to move just a last question for 2026 and

35:38this is what is the biggest challenge I know we have this triangle with the

35:43trans personal planets Everyone’s talking about that, but can you narrow more and tell us personally what do you

35:49do you you think it’s like the biggest challenge for 2026 and see if if it’s in

35:55line with all the previous interviews I [laughter] Yeah, I mean uh I can straight away um

36:04point out um July 2026

36:10and that is because um because uh you’ve got Jupiter

36:15in Leo. Um, expecting all the outer planets.

36:20True. Uh, and they all at four degrees of the sign.

36:26Yeah. There’s like a right like uh cradle. Cradle. Yeah, like a cradle.

36:32Yeah. How it contains the baby? Like a cradle. So, uh, it’s all at four degrees and I think it’s in the second half of

36:40July 2026. And then at the same time, I think that’s when also the north node switches

36:47to Aquarius, the true node that is. Oh, and then at the same time, you’ve got also um Chiron still in Taurus.

36:57Okay, that’s big. [laughter] Ian, is there anything you you want to

37:05um to you know tell us collectively like biggest challenge that you you think

37:11it’s going to like reset or put things upside down or change things?

37:17You know, I I think it I will continue a little bit with the Saturn P Saturn [clears throat] Neptune, sorry,

37:22conjunction because it’s it’s such a long um [clears throat] cycle with

37:27Saturn and and Neptune. It’s like 30 over 30 years over three decades almost four decades

37:33uh of this energy and what I’m mostly worried about um almost is like the

37:41agendas that are being pushed on us or upon us

37:47uh are so strong um that even like the the ones that are very conscious that

37:54are very let’s say aware of what’s happening uh people who are watching this channel,

38:01this interview, they are these energies are so tricky to man navigate to and to

38:07maneuver that even the most conscious, most present, most dialed in people can

38:13be almost like taken over by them. And this is almost like my warning to really

38:20almost observe what’s being pushed on you. And if you if you notice yourself

38:28going with very strongly into some sort of some form of agenda that is being

38:34pushed upon you from the outside, I think it’s going to be a bad route to go

38:42towards or to go on. And so be be really aware and it’s going to last for a while

38:48and be be present as much as possible with this. So Ian, you’re trying to say

38:54that the social engineering agenda is going to kick up a few

38:59notches. I would say

39:04100%. There’s no avoiding it. It’s coming from all angles. It’s going to go

39:09go east, west, Trump, whatever, India. But it’s going

39:15to come from all of this religion, Islam, Christianity. It’s going to come from all of these places. and it’s going

39:22to really be strong. It’s going to be really enticing and it’s going to stir

39:27up a lot of anger, violence, fear, anxiety. So, you really need to

39:35basically go away basically is what is what I’m saying is

39:42you can’t really uh entertain yourself with these agendas. It’s it won’t work.

39:48Oh, wow. Thank you guys for for that info. In the end, it’s always useful to to be prepared, you know, to to kind of

39:55get different scenarios of what can we can expect. Well, I mean, it’s not about guess in the future, but, you know,

40:00trying to connect the dots and see, you know, where the ball might kick to or from. So, so now we’re going to move to

40:07um a small dynamic, a small game. We’re going to um pull up some cards about 2026.

40:13uh you guys are going to pick a card and then you will see uh one of the transits that’s going to be in the sky during

40:202026 and you can elaborate as much as you want from a personal experience or collectively. So um just to make it more

40:27entertaining I’m going to change I’m going to share the screen right now. Uh hopefully uh content only.

40:36Well, let’s try this one. Hopefully it will work. I’m praying because otherwise

40:43Okay, so we have some cards here. We have just like a like Excel. We have

40:49seven columns and four rows. So, who wants to start and pick a card? Maybe um

40:58Don. How about the last row? Center card.

41:04Last row. This one. Okay.

41:09Venus retrograde in Libra Scorpio October November 2026.

41:17Mhm. Funny enough, funnily enough, I’ve got Venus. [laughter]

41:23That’s why was cracking. I saw him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So uh that Venus retrograde is going to be uh substantial

41:32because I do see a lot of relationships going through turmoil

41:39that particular one that particular one because um it’s going to be um squaring

41:48Jupiter in Leo because Jupiter will already

41:53have ingress into Leo and so is squaring while Venus is in uh

41:59Scorpio. Uhhuh. The Scorpio part before it retrogrades back into uh uh Libra. So, uh lots of

42:08secrets Mhm. going to come out pertaining to uh

42:16a fest of the heart. Maybe someone’s not telling the truth and it all gets uncovered then.

42:22Wow. for people who like to listen to Sweet Little Lies, maybe you can last for a

42:28little bit longer. But [laughter] it’s it’s an interesting retrogradation

42:36because it’s Libra which is Venus place and then Scorpio where she’s really

42:41really really sad or whatever in fall detriment. I can’t remember but it’s like

42:47going to be interesting. Oh yeah, the private investigators are going to be busy, right? Okay. [laughter]

42:55Any potential like, you know, advice or keyword for for that transit, Donnie,

43:00that you could um I think it’s a is when it’s a Venus retrograde, it’s always a time to reook

43:08or re-evaluate what relationship still needs to be in your life and what doesn’t.

43:14Great. The only thing I can think about when transit Venus will be retrograding

43:20in Scorpio squaring that Jupiter in Leo is that uh you have to really ask

43:25yourself, be truthful, be authentic to yourself and ask if do you need to still

43:30be in association with the people in which you’re re-evaluating

43:40within your head. Interesting. Nice. So you guys, you have

43:45it there. I mean, it’s still too far away, but you know, you might find it useful next year, so take note. Now,

43:51let’s uh let’s give Ian a chance uh to pull a card. Let’s do

43:59Ian uh seven columns, four rows.

44:05The right one next to what Donnie chose. So, basically the low. Yeah, that one.

44:10Yeah, this one. Okay. That’s Chiron in Taurus starting June.

44:18Um, what comes to your mind, Ian? Um, hire

44:24in Taurus. D is laughing. Why are you laughing? [laughter] Yeah, I mean there are a couple of

44:30things definitely that come to mind is um our kind of like self-worth uh will

44:38definitely be under [sighs] under pressure. So there will be things

44:47um I think maybe even from the past that come to to the surface regarding

44:52self-worth, self value, our skills in the marketplace. Um are they good

44:59enough? So you know you can also think about you know everything AI technology

45:04everything is ramping up quite quickly. Um so you know the skills needed and

45:10required um can be you you might need to learn them fast you know or faster and

45:18that can trigger the the you know the Chiron like wound of it’s painful that I

45:26don’t know how to do it yet or um I I’m not sure I’m worth this much that much

45:34if I can’t do this or that. um you know in the marketplace. So that’s definitely one of the things. Um and I would say

45:43also like financially uh definitely can can bring up some you know uh wounds,

45:50pains even even like uh not having at times as much you know may you know in some some

45:57cases some scenarios um especially if it’s also associated

46:02with with their financial house then it’s like a double whammy anyway. Wow. Um, what else do I want to say

46:09about this Chiron Taurus? Oh, maybe that’s it for now. Yeah,

46:15great. Thank you. So, what would be like the keyword or like a small tip advice

46:20um so we can navigate it smoothly? Let’s put it that [laughter] way.

46:26you know, a lot of the things um the material things that are outside of us

46:32ex, you know, external from us, they’re not really directly associated with our

46:38worth. And most people are we’re we’re still in a very very materialistic

46:44materialism type hold. And I think that will make this transit a little bit uh

46:50more painful for people because we are holding on to the things so deeply.

46:56So if we can release some of the control um holding on to this

47:02materialistic materialism type of approach to life then it will be easier. And I think also nature, sound will help

47:11definitely these types of five senses. Anything to do with five senses that are aren’t, you know, specifically like, oh,

47:19give me more food or more money. Uh maybe food is another thing, you know, um you can bring up issues with

47:26regarding food and and the need to actually start, you know, growing our own food more and more healthy food.

47:31Actually, I think that’s a big one for this transit as well. Um, so yeah, just

47:37do your best to detach yourself from these things and understand that you’re a, you know, creature that isn’t

47:44identified constantly with these material things and I think it will be a little bit easier.

47:50Thank you. Yeah, that’s pretty cool. That’s really useful. So, we’re going to do a little bit of a um roulette wheel.

47:58Roulette wheel. That’s how you say in English, I think. And just give me one moment. Uh, we’re going to ask you guys

48:06a question, but we have so many, so I prefer to put them in a roulette and see um how it goes. Um, Don, we’re going to

48:15spin it for you. They’re in Spanish. I will translate in English and see what question you get. You can talk from a

48:21personal experience 2025 or your life, you know, depending on the question. So, let’s do this.

48:34This is pretty cool. What is this? Like a software or what’s what’s there? Okay.

48:41Okay. Yeah, it’s like a It’s a website and you just Yeah. put the questions. So, Donnie,

48:48what transit surprised you during 2025?

48:55It would be that Uranus or my chart ruler. Uhhuh. Uhhuh.

49:00Yeah. Because uh you know usually as a Virgo rising I probably give too much

49:06attention to a lot of things but uh when Uranus hit my chart ruler like yeah I

49:15can’t be bothered with g with giving too many flying Did it bring [laughter]

49:25Did it Did it bring any unexpected like kind of um I don’t know clients or money

49:31or friends or news or something like that? Um I think it’s more of me dealing with

49:38peace with some things that I’ve been holding on for

49:43some even not uh I’m consciously aware of. I’m holding on to.

49:49And then that Uranus came along, hit my chart ruler via conjunction, and I just

49:54kind of, you know what, it is what it is. Yeah. And I mean it this time. Yeah.

49:59Like a breakthrough. That’s really cool. Awesome. Well, should I say release them for good and fast because it’s Gemini, right?

50:06Yeah, that’s true. So fast one is seeing, okay, that’s done. I get it.

50:12I feel much lighter actually. Yeah. after that uh this year’s uh UR uh Uranus in Gemini transit.

50:19Awesome. Thank you, Don. Thanks for sharing. Let’s give Ian a chance here. So, we’re going to spin the wheel and

50:27see what it gets.

50:37Okay. So, it says which transit inspires inspired like an expansion in your

50:44astrological practice or growth or

50:52um M it was interestingly a big expansion came when

50:59when we had Jupiter and Saturn conjunction in Aquarius which is in my

51:05fifth house which what it was like four years ago 5 years ago can’t even remember years ago something like that I think that was the

51:12time I got on the Astratada platform and there was you met I met Donnie through

51:17Astraada platform I met a bunch of other people uh you I meant you Yeah,

51:22obviously. [laughter] So there was a lot of expansion going on that time and I my

51:28son was born at that time around that time. So first born so lot of expansion.

51:33Um what is it um happening in your chart in which area? Fifth house. Fifth house and Aquarius.

51:40Yeah fifth house. So you know fifth house is a lot to do with your b personal expression business personal

51:46business in in your life. So yeah that was exciting. That’s fifth house is also your first

51:51biological child, right? Yeah, that’s actually very on spot for

51:57Ian. Donnie, we’re gonna do one more and for Ian as well and see where it lands.

52:05Okay, so Donnie, let’s do this. Okay, so any thoughts, lessons learned from

52:14the ingress of the north node in Pisces? ingression of the north node in Pisces.

52:21Uh, at least personally for me, it’s it’s all about

52:26um synchronistic events that’s happening in my life. Cuz um this really brings me

52:34back to uh ever since North Node entered Pisces, I’ve been just seeing so many um

52:43messages to be decoded on a day-to-day basis. I don’t know if I’ve told you uh

52:49in our last interview, but um I recently got my new passport done and it was

52:58it was very funny because when I gotten the email to book my slot and collect it from the closest um post office,

53:06the earliest date was 1111 at 11:00 a.m. No way.

53:12Yeah. And the buses I have to take are up both containing the numbers 11.

53:18[laughter] So why do you So tell me that isn’t trippy. Yeah. And um I needed to Google what does it

53:24mean and kind of like get the message and okay hallelu. I got the message and

53:30then just kind of say my gratitude and just move on because I felt that if it’s

53:35Pisces, you just have to uh surrender to the process of it all and have that

53:44some people call Pisces the connection point between yourself and your higher

53:50aspects of self [clears throat] from a spiritual perspective. And if you actually can see uh synchronistic

53:58messages uh all around you which means you’re in connection with your higher aspects of

54:04self right you’re directly receiving messages from above

54:10right and you have Pisces it’s your seventh house right if you’re Virgo rising

54:15it’s my if you talk about placidus is my first and seventh house sign spice sign

54:22yeah right okay most of Yeah, interesting. I’m a late degree Virgo rising. [laughter]

54:27Ah, okay. Thanks, Donnie. Interesting. Interesting. Thanks for sharing that. Um, let’s go again with Ian and see what

54:35he gets. What can we learn from his experiences?

54:45Okay, this is tricky to translate in English just by from reading it. But it

54:50says, “Which month of the year was absolutely crazy for you, Ian?”

54:59Like 2025. Yeah. Absolutely crazy.

55:05Jesus Christ. All of them. I know which one. I mean, [laughter] I remember Oh, Jesus.

55:11Um, there were so many crazy months this year really. I it’s really honest like super

55:18uh difficult to pick one. Jesus Christ can’t even remember. I want to say May.

55:25One part was May. Uh and obviously this these eclipses were quite wild as well.

55:33Um [clears throat] Jesus. I mean I literally I just want to say like this year has been so crazy and

55:40wild and intense and emotional and painful. It’s hard to pick one month,

55:48but uh [laughter] let’s go let’s go with May 2025. Yeah.

55:56Right. Okay. Interesting. What do you remember? In May, we had some uh I think we had

56:04Saturn entering Aries the first of I can’t remember, but I’m

56:10like we we had Aries overdose. I can’t remember. I’m trying to be for me it was like I I I remember I was

56:17juggling basically a huge project really important project I was juggling I was

56:23sick I was constantly sick I was like I think I was um I think I had the corona virus again

56:30like the third time I don’t know fourth time then my both of my children were sick and

56:38Jesus Christ it everything kind of happened all at once there so it was like it was so much duties,

56:45responsibilities, everything is weighing on me and I kind of was like I was praying each day. I was like just get me

56:52through this one like let’s get through the next half an hour like then I [laughter] was like okay let’s do it. So

56:57that was that as well. Neptune just entered Aries with

57:03Neptune Saturn in very late degrees of Pisces

57:10in May 25. Yeah, I think it was like for me it was like just before it entered um

57:17because then Saturn maybe it was April May kind of April May 2025 because then

57:24uh Saturn was uh square everything in my chart and that was that was the time it was like like after the eclipses and and

57:31yeah that was wild a wild time not not recommended for anybody.

57:37[laughter] What made you stay grounded? What lessons did you extract? can we extract

57:43from those that craziness? Maybe I think I think uh my like Donnie kind

57:50of shared his connection you know the synchronicities for me it was a lot about that as well. I think my

57:56connection to to the to the source to to my guides to my you know angels, ancestors

58:04whatever you want to call it. I felt that connection get so acute so strong

58:09and I was constantly assured that everything would would be fine and I would get through this. Obviously I you

58:14know my human mind sometimes goes into like oh I can’t do this. I you know it’s too much. Uh you know maybe it’s maybe

58:22it will be like this forever. You know, that’s a really common thought when we’re going through a lot of challenges

58:27all at once. But like I was constantly supported and every time there was like some very big

58:32thing, I went to my prayer, my meditation, I went into nature. So basically these things are are you know

58:39the best ones I think. Amazing. Thank you Donnie. Thanks for sharing that. I wanted to to ask you now

58:46with um social media exposure and everyone trying to be well I think we

58:52were trying to be very careful in the beginning but now with Pluto in Aquarius and you know this authenticity and

58:58people wanting to see real stories how do you plan to present yourselves as

59:05astrologers from 2026 on what’s an advice you can give us as

59:11other astrologers I can say at least for myself that um at

59:16least I’ve I’ve been in the game for a couple of years and I just kind of have

59:21that thought recurring in my mind throughout the years how I want to present myself and I think it’s just be

59:30very very coherent and very aligned with how I’m also off camera.

59:36Um yeah because it’s so important that it’s not because of you press the record button

59:43and then suddenly like oh my god I got to like you know put on a performance you know what I mean it’s uh [laughter]

59:51it’s not about that you know like if you talk to me offline you still get the same flavor put it that way and I guess

59:58it’s uh uh it’s the alignment between when you’re on and off camera

1:00:06and So it doesn’t put stress on yourself as well, right? And I guess it also tells people that

1:00:12I’m not wearing a mask just because you press a record button and we are recording this. Just saying.

1:00:18Yeah. Very nice. Thanks, Donnie. That’s great. Yeah. And what are your thoughts now in

1:00:25this craziness digital jungle of fakeness and

1:00:30[laughter] Sorry, I’m superic. I I think that’s correct because that’s that’s what’s going on. It’s it’s um

1:00:37digital jungle uh every I don’t know everybody’s fake but like a lot of

1:00:42fakeness is out there currently. It’s rap ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra ra rampant everywhere. Unfortunately this business

1:00:49or this kind of like spiritual helping type people is not safe from this. So

1:00:57you know it’s it’s a jungle. It’s it’s a it’s a very heavy energy from from my perspective. I don’t you know when I

1:01:03because when I I I I try not to but sometimes I do engage with somebody else’s content I I do it very very

1:01:10rarely uh just because of that reasons to just keep myself a little bit more sane. Uh you can you can spot them quite

1:01:17quick quite quickly. Uh I think if you’re more sensitive and in tune with things but I do think like what Donny

1:01:23said and I do prefer to do it that way as well. I’d rather be myself and rather

1:01:29give as much information and kind of like my expression as as I can

1:01:34and do something else that I really don’t want to do. Maybe in in my earlier

1:01:39years I was kind of like went into the flow of oh I need to do these type of predictions and I need to do these

1:01:46transits and I need to do this. It’s more like I need it’s more like understanding what’s important for you

1:01:52to do uh and what you feel called to do as an astrologer. For me, it’s it’s a

1:01:57lot to do with like deep more emotional wounding type psychological issues and maybe financial astrology. These are

1:02:03kind like economic financial astrology like these are more, you know, close to my heart. Let’s put it this way to give

1:02:10people freedom in that area and instead of like caused, you know, interpreting,

1:02:16you know, um these these transients and what they will bring to people, you know, from a very, you know,

1:02:23I don’t know, kind of like shallow way. Um I I I do I think it’s important to put your own spin on these things. Um I

1:02:30think then you will be fine you know as an astrologer. Thank you. Ian thanks guys. Finally

1:02:35can I also add one more thing because it’s not always about the numbers. I guess we all have to

1:02:42remember that cuz it’s so easy to use social media numbers as your currency

1:02:48and you get sucked into that black hole, right? and you start being like disingenuous or inauthentic as a result.

1:02:57Yeah, this is a constant like kind of like fighter battle and I see it not only with astrologers but even like with

1:03:03a with doctors like I have a friend that’s an amazing pediatric pediatric

1:03:10you say for kids and she’s saying she has no like this year she didn’t have

1:03:15enough clients and she realized that maybe because she’s not on social media. So she’s saying that now people are

1:03:22choosing their doctors or whatever and they look at their social media and so

1:03:27they look at their post and how many followers and that stuff. So she’s saying that imagine how people are

1:03:34choosing their doctors now and it kind of like I don’t know it hit me. I’m not a doctor, but it’s like, wow, that’s

1:03:40that’s tough, you know? Like, so she’s like, now I got to learn social media in order to get like appointments or to

1:03:46just do my job. And if I’m not there, I’m no one. I mean, maybe word of mouth

1:03:52here and there, you know. I like I would recommend her to come to Estonia because we need doctors and we

1:03:59want [laughter] doctors especially who want to help people. I I can’t remember. This is when I’m hearing this. This

1:04:06sounds super insane to me. Like if we’re if like like let’s take a moment and uh

1:04:13like stop with this because as a species we’re becoming so freaking stupid that

1:04:20we’re like choosing people because they have more followers. Like um I mean go

1:04:26to Jake Paul then to get your heart checked. Like like it’s like it’s insane. We can’t be this stupid. Like I

1:04:33I just need to put this out there. We can’t be this stupid. We need to be smarter. Yeah.

1:04:39I think it’s also that is everything you see on the internet real. You got to have a real check on that cuz followers

1:04:47can be bought, comments can be bought, likes can be bought, everything can be

1:04:52manufactured, right? Yeah. Everything can be curated to look

1:04:58a certain way. Exactly. I think it’s our responsibility as well. So, thank you so much guys. I

1:05:03don’t want to take more of your time. The last is just like what would you tell

1:05:08people from your rising sign you know during 2026 like a small advice you know

1:05:14just to close the video like for Vigor risings Donnie what would you like tell them or be careful or whatever you

1:05:22I think in one sentence is that hell freezes over. [laughter and gasps]

1:05:27Okay. Saturn is no longer in Pisces. And then uh you’ve got well I would just

1:05:35kind of explain it from a whole sign house system basis because it’s just easier

1:05:40cuz Uranus will be in your 10th whole sign. Uh Neptune and Saturn will be your

1:05:49will be in your eight household signs. So it’ll slow down any ups and downs.

1:05:54Although it’ll still a bit it’ll still be a bit muddy because of Neptune being there, but at least like you won’t get

1:06:00as much ups and downs and of course subsequent disappointments Neptune

1:06:06from the ups and downs of life. At least that that’s taken care by like Saturn

1:06:11freezing there [laughter] in the eighth house. And then um

1:06:18for Pluto in your sixth household signs uh it’s time to

1:06:25really uh look into your nervous system cuz I know like Virgos tend to over worry and that’s why their small

1:06:32intestines or intestines gets really impacted because that’s where Virgo rules in the body

1:06:38and it’s time to really heal that part of your body and look into um

1:06:45alternative holistic therapy. Thank you. Thanks a lot. Thanks for that. Ian, for

1:06:53Libra risings, I guess any suggestions or tips?

1:06:59Yeah, I would say there’s a word of warning and kind of like encouragement as well because I think um I mean it

1:07:07depends a little bit of your kind of like placidus capus whole sign but like let’s focus on maybe whole sign. So the

1:07:13Saturn Neptune conjunction is still happening in your 7th house. So um be

1:07:19ready specifically first and foremost encouragement be ready for these types of uh new uh relationships,

1:07:27partnerships, contracts. Yeah, I mean some of these will fall away definitely some will need to go. Um they’re not

1:07:34serving you and be prepared for that as well. Uh but be ready for new beginnings in that area as well, especially

1:07:41relationships. I think it’s this is a big one for Libras as well and it was it was for everybody when South Node was in

1:07:48Libra, you know, for Libras specific, a lot of those um

1:07:54unfortunately for them even, you know, you would think like the Libras have

1:07:59their first house um they had the South Node there, but even the Libras had so

1:08:06many divorces, so many just relationships broke down. uh they

1:08:11obviously sometimes a lot more Libras come to me for advice as well you know it just happens that way but now it’s

1:08:18it’s a lot about uh new beginnings there as well but [clears throat] it’s not only rosy I would say it’s not only a

1:08:24rosy kind of like rose field there I would say the tendency for Libras

1:08:30specifically is because we identify so much what the outer world reflects to us

1:08:37and gives us or or says to us or you know almost shows up. We tend to

1:08:43take it as that’s ours and we need to almost engage with it and go with it.

1:08:49One of the really big things is like take your time um understand and get to

1:08:55know these people, these um contracts or deals. sometimes you can’t obviously time is of the essence but if you can

1:09:02take a little bit of more time to get to know the person um and then you can make

1:09:08a better decision if if you start a longterm cycle because this cycle would obviously not all of these relationships

1:09:15but it would be a long-term commitment um in my view so good things coming as

1:09:21well but be be prepared uh to take take the bad with it

1:09:28So, so to speak. Thank you. Thank you. And yeah, maybe keep your eyes open, you know, just like

1:09:34um in a way because I don’t because Neptune is there. This is what I’m saying it like yeah Saturn’s there but

1:09:41so it’s very interesting for Libra rising. So guys, thank you so much for being with with us.

1:09:46Maybe one one thing like like Neptune can be like your soulmate showing up

1:09:52basically especially Saturn. Maybe somebody older, maybe your soulmate now is an older showing up. But

1:09:59if there are negative aspects in your chart, it can be like an addicted old guy, you know, like somebody who’s a

1:10:06drunk person like secretly uh going to the casino to gamble. Like I’ve had

1:10:11people like that as well. Like they have Neptune in the seventh house. They just can’t see it. You know, you have to tell

1:10:17them like this person is abusing you. You know, like it happens. Um because it’s such a blind spot. Neptune can

1:10:23throw that in and you you’re literally doing that and you’re you’re justifying their actions as well and you have to b

1:10:29pay you know other people to basically say to you like this is not okay and then you know you can start making uh

1:10:35changes. Can I also add one more sentence because like uh Pluto and

1:10:42Uranus will be for Libra risings whole signs in the fifth

1:10:47and ninth house. What’s that what does that mean for you Ian? Yeah, it’s is is

1:10:53also supporting I suppose for liberizings. I mean I I would say so. I would say so

1:11:00because these are like so-called you know dharma I think it was like the dharma houses. Um but it’s it’s more in

1:11:07English it’s more like on purpose your future purpose life purpose type houses

1:11:12first 5th ninth. Um I think they are supporting a lot of Libras to almost

1:11:20liberate themselves from old beliefs as well. But, you know, to kind of make that turn and, you know, be on your

1:11:28purpose, go on your mission instead of maybe, you know, serving somebody else or doing something you don’t really want

1:11:34to do because again, Libras, you it’s easy for you to do that because you just

1:11:41if somebody constantly gives you that advice maybe in childhood, constantly just blah blah blah in your face, in

1:11:47your ear, you need to do this and you need this is how life works, then It’s really easy to go and live a life that’s

1:11:55not yours. Like literally live a and this Pluto and and Uranus, I would say that will give you an opportunity to

1:12:01kind of like break free. Uh um you know, start your own business, you know, start something new. I think that’s and and

1:12:08refreshing refreshing energy and refreshing new beliefs and ways of seeing the world and seeing the future

1:12:14and kind of like um I think that yeah a lot of those old things that you believed in they will start to vanish

1:12:21and they’re not um keeping you down as much.

1:12:26Thank you so much Ian and Donnie and I’m looking forward to your um course to

1:12:32your webinar with because I do believe or certainly going to be useful for a year like 2026 with so much fire and so

1:12:39much masculine energy. So I think it is important to be aware of this narcissistic behaviors not only outside

1:12:46but also within. So I think it’s great that you guys organized um this or

1:12:52information that you will give us. Is there anything else you want to share with us? Any courses or readings that

1:12:58you are um giving these days? Um I mean my presentation

1:13:05uh slides for 2026 into 2027 is still on sale. Um I’m sure that you know uh you

1:13:12will attach um the links in the description box and people can just email me and purchase it directly from

1:13:18me. It’s got a lot of uh in-depth research in which I’ve painstakingly put

1:13:25together into this presentation of what energies to come and uh next year is is really fiery like

1:13:32what you mentioned because it’s the year of the fire horse and it’s uh universal

1:13:37year one as well. Wow. Thank you Donnie. Thanks for that. I will leave all the details below.

1:13:45Please check the description below. You can find everything. um we’ve been talking about regarding courses and

1:13:51readings and the presentation of Dony as well. Ian, any plans? How’s your app going?

1:13:56I mean, it’s still it’s still alive. Uh we’re making some maybe adjustments to

1:14:02it nowadays. And so, you can definitely go and download the Benefic app. It’s still on Android. Uh you can get it

1:14:08there. Um, but we also I co-created a calendar for an astrological calendar

1:14:14for 2026 with one of my other um astrological friends. Let’s call her Christina from cosmic insight astrology.

1:14:21So that’s all over my social media. So you can get that easily there. I think that has also valuable information so

1:14:28you can basically uh get through 2026 [laughter]

1:14:33or something like that. Thank you. Ian and Don. Yeah. No, no, no. Of course, Christina. I know she’s

1:14:38amazing and she’s doing um what is it like predictive kind of um she’s very

1:14:44good at it isn’t her like oh I would say so but I would say this this specific product is predictive as

1:14:50well but I would say it’s it’s um a lot to do with kind of like uh understanding the energies at play you know day by day

1:14:56by day month by month by month so you’re not like super let’s say scared by it or

1:15:02you kind of know what to expect uh on what days and you know weeks months etc.

1:15:08So I think that’s it’s a very extensive uh calendar I would say. Thank you so much Ian. We’ll leave all

1:15:14the details below. Thank you so much guys and thanks for staying with us. I hope you enjoy this small talk not not

1:15:21an interview but a small talk where we were trying to draw some lessons from the astrologers personally and [music]

1:15:27professionally. And I hope to see you in the next episode. Ian Donnie, thank you very much. So happy to see you and you

1:15:33know you can always come back here. [music] Um, I love talking to to both of you and certainly enjoy this time together.

1:15:40Thanks. Thanks so much for having us. See you guys. Bye. [music]