Debunking Astrology Backfired | Backstage Astrology Interview with Dustin Cormier

Yeah. Hello and welcome back to another Backstitch Astrology episode. My name is

Mariam Medina and today I am with a very special guest. I’m here here with Dustin

Cormier. He’s based in Canada. Dustin, thank you so much for being here. How are you today?

I’m amazing. Is it Myra? Is that right? I just got to make sure I get your name right. Myra, thank you so much, Myra,

for doing what you’re doing and for letting me be here. I think it’s very special that you’re helping the world of

astrology by bringing people on to discuss this thing that we all love. I think it’s a great idea and I’m

honored to be a part of it. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Dustin, for those who don’t know you or

don’t know about the the work you do, how would you like people to know you really as an astrologer or as Dustin,

you know, whatever you want to say. Yeah. Oh, well, thank you for asking, Myra. Yeah, my name is Dustin Cormier.

Uh you can find me on YouTube as how to rock astrology. Uh I am a person who’s passionate about consciousness more than

anything. Uh in gish in Indian astrology what we say is gotish which is astrology

is the science of the light. It’s just one aspect of self-realization of yoga.

So the bigger picture part of astrology is self-realization is understanding the

nature of oneself. looking within and seeing who you are in the context of the world. So I’m somebody who’s interested

in consciousness. I consider myself a yogi more than anything. I was also when when I and I when I

discovered your work, I saw you are a lot into Vic astrology and and consciousness and yoga. So can

you explain us a little bit more about your your approach towards astrology? Why is it I find it very unique. So can

you just share? Thanks. Thanks for asking, Myra. That’s awesome. Uh, so yeah, I’m a writer. Uh,

if anybody’s interested, uh, you can go on my website and I’m going to be starting to produce books on my writings

and philosophy. Uh, I’m a reflector in human design, which I think adds a weird

twist to everything as I like to think. Now, uh, as in terms of tropical Vic

astrology, that’s what I practice. So for everybody watching it’s important to

know that Vadic astrology uh really vadic just means that it comes

from the Indian tradition. Mhm. So the Indian people have different ways

of thinking about things like for example we have yogas in Vdic astrology.

We have things called the atmakar and the caracas which are very important. We have words

for the planets that give a lot of detail about what those planets mean. For example, in the Indian tradition,

we put a lot of emphasis on the planet that we call guru, which is Jupiter.

And Jupiter in the west, I mean, it’s, you know, Jupiter in some ways, I see it

as being a little underemphasized in traditions outside of Indian because people almost treat it like an asteroid.

But in the Indian tradition, the Vadic tradition, Jupiter is one of the seven

classical planets and it’s it it whole it rules Sagittarius and Pisces classically.

So there are in the Vadic tradition there are many different ways of thinking and interpreting the the

astrology chart. Now it’s important to know that the Vadic tradition and the Greek tradition

are two different ways of interpreting a chart. But most people think when you do Vadic astrology that you also have to do

cidurial astrology. So this is a tricky this is the cidurial

tropical debate. Uh if anybody’s ever heard of it, it’s a whole hairy rabbit hole to go down. But what can be simply

understood is that you know in the western tradition we say you know you’re

around the 21st of the month is when things change. So we have a certain way

of measuring the planets in the west and we call that tropical astrology. In the

vdic tradition uh traditionally in India it’s particularly Indian astrologers

they have something called the cidurial uh cidurial ayamra cidurial

measurements. It’s where they take things 23° they take things 23 degrees back. So I’m

a Scorpio in the tropical tradition that most westerners recognize but in the

traditional Indian I am a Libra. Yeah. So I go from Scorpio to Libra. I take

the it back. But in the in the tradition that I follow I am a Vadic astrologer

but I use tropical measurements because I’m a westerner. I’m from Canada. So I

don’t take the signs back like the Indian people do but I do use their yogas their what their language for

interpreting the symbols of astrology. It’s sort of a neo approach to astrology

and in our camp in what we call tropical vadic astrology we say that this is how

it was always intended to be. Mhm. Uh things just happened in history that

kind of confused the issue a little bit. There’s a lot to talk about there. It’s a pretty hairy rabbit hole.

Yeah. Yeah. No, but thanks for the for the clarification because I mean I don’t know much about Vic astrology, I think

it from what I the little things I I watch on YouTube, it sounds fascinating,

but I did I did I did think that it was like cidurial kind of astrology. So I

mean thanks for the the clarification. But earlier you were mentioning something about human design

and so so tell us what it is and how do you marriage human design with your astrological practice?

Well, that’s a good question to be honest with you. I like to throw around and tell people that I’m a reflector

because it’s the special one. You know, they say the reflector is a very rare thing and I throw it around all the

time. I’ve read enough about it to see and understand it in myself. But to be

honest with you, I’m not the right guy to ask. I do not know enough about human design, okay,

to really speak with authority about it. But it it’s something that I’ve researched enough to know that there is

something to it. It’s very interesting. Uh the guy who created it, it’s kind of like it’s an

amalgamation of various astrological techniques that’s very compelling. It’s

something that we should all keep an eye on because I think it is going to come through in the world as being very

important but I don’t feel uh I haven’t studied it enough to say anything with

authority. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Great. So you were mentioning that also

you were born in November and you’re Scorpio. So can you share with us your big three

and yeah some like anything you you’d like to share about your chart? Oh, I’m happy to. Thanks for asking. Uh,

you know, it’s funny. We’re we’ve been um on my channel, me and my a friend of mine, his name is Corey Dows from Eye of

the Veta. We’re both tropical Vadic astrologers and we’ve been talking about the Vadic big three.

It’s something that we’ve been kind of playing around with. But the bit for the for the big three that everybody knows, I am a Leo rising.

You can kind of see that lying energy inside me laughing and I have a lot of that Leo. I love the

sound of my own voice, as I like to say. You’re also a singer from what I watched a little bit. Yep. Yep. Singing is

something that uh I’ve been so into writing lately that with singing, you

got to keep it up. You got to practice it. Yeah. And uh I love to sing, but it’s

something that I again I I have to take the time to really master it, but I love to do it. I’m a musician. Play uh I was

in a band for a little while. So, I’m a Leo rising. I’m Scorpio sun at

the bottom of the chart and then I’m Sagittarius moon in the fifth house. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Interesting.

And what I what I love to tell people Oh, sorry. Did you want to ask something about that? No, no, no, no. Go ahead. Go on.

Uh, what I love to tell people in the Vadic tradition uh in the Yep. The Vadic

tradition, we have our own sort of big three that we kind of play with. We have

something called the Atma. Mhm. And the atmakar is the planet with the

highest degrees in the chart, not including the north node, the south node or Uranus, Neptune or Pluto.

It’s the seven classical planets, Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn.

The planet with the highest degrees is what’s called the atmakar.

So I often like to tell people that I am Venus is my planet with the highest

degrees. Atmakar. So atma that’s right. So atma

means the soul and then a car is like a sign an indicator of something.

So the atma is the soul indicating planet. Okay.

So for me I’m a Venus soul. Mhm. So when you see me I’m a lion. I’ve got

all my fire energy but I am I consider myself to be a very soft Venus person.

You know, I’m very feminine sometimes, although Venus is feminine and masculine. Uh, I’m I’m interested in psychology.

Yoga can be a very Venus thing. I’m interested in diet. I’m very passionate. I’m a writer.

Uh, I write a lot of poetry. Yeah. You know, they say about Venus is that they have something called cavia, which

means that they see a a meaning where other people wouldn’t see it. is sometimes with Venus, if you have a a

strongly aspected Venus or strong indicated Venus, you see things that other people don’t

see. Oh, okay. You can see a piece of art or a piece of poetry and it is filled with deep

symbolism and meaning and another person might just see it as just, oh, it’s just the Mona Lisa, you know, no big deal.

I see. And so what are your favorite like astrology like branches? You know

today we have so many because astrology exploded since 2020 I think and we have

the the vocational the relationships the the evolutionary. So which one is your

favorite and why? Interesting. Uh well of course I am a tropical vadic astrologer. Uh but you

know I’ve I’ve studied a lot of evolutionary astrology through Jeffrey Wolf Green.

Yeah. Not necessarily uh Steven Forest is also calls himself a evolutionary astrologer.

And not that he’s not that. I think that they’re just sharing the same there.

Steven Forest and Jeffrey Wolf Green are sharing the same word. Uh but Jeffrey Wolf Green is really big on

he’s got his own tradition of Pluto. It’s very Plutocentric, but he’s also really big on the north and south node.

Mhm. Uh I really like his work a lot. Uh for me, when I do astrology, I mean

really again I astrology, so many people come to astrology for so

many different reasons. For me, it’s a tool to help prompt self-reflection.

Nice. uh when I’m talking to a client, when I’m talking with anybody about astrology, I can use it as an instrument

to prod them to say, you know, have you thought about this? It says in your chart that this might be happening. What

do you think about that? And for me, I mostly study it. I I began

studying it in order to have knowledge about myself. Uh-huh. You know, I wanted, you know, I wanted

the chart to point out things to me and say, “You have this pattern. Have you noticed this?” And then for me to say,

“I had no idea I had that pattern.” And then I’d research it. I’d digest and go, “I do have that pattern.”

For me, that’s an incredible psychological reflection tool.

That’s amazing. Yeah. So like you’re more like on the psychological the evolutionary kind of like not path but

this is what what really actually what brought you into astrology because maybe you had an experience maybe it was just

curiosity or maybe you read a book like how did you start? Good question. So now uh I’ve always

been into yoga as I said and I was reading a particular book on yoga.

It’s called autobiography of a yogi. Uhhuh. by a guy named Peramahanza Yogaandanda. He’s uh it’s this little

orange book uh one of my it’s one of my favorite books. And so in this book this

fellow his name is Para Mahanza Yogaandanda. He had a guru who was a jotishi.

So his guru taught did astrology and paramahansza yogaandanda

is people call him yogaanda. Mhm. He has this whole thing in his book

where he says that we are beyond astrology. We have the ability to guide our life

the way we want to. And so he took his kundli which is his astrology chart.

He put it in a little paper bag and he roasted it on the fire.

Wow. And he said, “I’m roasting the seeds of my karma with the fire of my

concentration and dedication.” Mhm. And his guru understood all this. He’s

like, “Yeah, you we’re different, you know.” Yeah. Cuz his guru was an astrologer.

So he said, “Go ahead, yoga.” You know, live beyond your astrology chart. Uh or,

you know, speak that language, you know. Uh and so yoga nandanda was big about

this and it was important because it is important to understand that astrology

really reflects our karma which is what we’ve done and karma sets up a trajectory for what

we can expect to happen in the future. Mhm. But it’s like a ball rolling down a a

hallway. You know, wherever you launch the ball, it has a trajectory. Mhm. But anything can happen to make

that ball change its trajectory along the way. Right? And so this is why yoga said this is

that I am in control of my fate and destiny ultimately. But it’s like a it’s

like a snake. You know the snake can turn its head wherever it wants. But what’s behind the

head is the momentum that came before. So it’s free will and its destiny.

They’re both wrapped together. And yoga was big on the free will part. on

moving the head of the snake. You can’t change your past but you can change your

trajectory your reaction right so I read yogaandanda

and I thought oh so this astrology stuff is stupid so yoga yogaanda said this astrology

stuff it’s people are wasting their time and I I’m I was a you know smartass to

use any uh the right word uh and I wanted to tell people all you idiots

doing astrology. Like, you guys are idiots. I can’t believe you guys are falling for this crap. So, I’m But for

me, I have to I have a scientific mind. Uhhuh. When I’m amongst mystical people, I I

come off as very scientific and rational. Uhhuh. But when I’m amongst a bunch of rational

people and scientific-minded people, I’m very mystical. I’m very airy, hairy.

I’m way out there. So, uh, what I wanted to do is I wanted

to prove to these idiots that astrology is stupid. So, I went and started reading an

astrology book. It was a very particular book. It’s called sexrstrology.

Sex like sexology. Sexrology. Oh my god. It’s a red and white book. Yeah, you got it. I’m a

Scorpio. I read sexology and I read all about what it says about Scorpio and I

was like, “Okay, maybe there’s something to this.

Maybe this is true is what I said.” So,

I started reading about different things. One of the reasons is because I have a strong Scorpio energy in my

chart. So, all the things I read about Scorpio, I was like, “Oh my gosh, like I I can’t

believe it.” Like this isn’t just you know you know how they say you read a book about your astrology and it’s like

oh anybody could say that anybody could feel those things. No I was reading this and it’s telling me

about like how I grew up. It’s telling me about my body. It’s telling me about the things that I

might dream about. Like all this stuff and I was completely

blown away. Wow. I couldn’t believe it. I could not believe it. So, I started learning that

there’s other things that you could check out in an astrology chart. And when I finally I found out that if you

find out the time of your birth, you learn something that’s called your rising sign.

And that alters the chart and puts all the planets in a certain place. When I read that I was a Leo rising and

I heard all the things about Leo rising, I was like, “Okay,

okay. I’m an astrologer. I get it. universe. You’re trying to make me an astrologer. I understand. And I was

completely blown away by how much I matched the things that I read about myself when I looked up my planets and

their signs and my rising sign and everything like that. I could not believe it. I was blown away.

Wow. So, okay. you have this realization and then when do you decide to like to

follow the path of astrology and like start giving readings or how how was that journey of like self-discovery

and then let’s put it out there share it good question Myra uh so for

about probably about five or six years I read a lot about astrology

there’s plenty of great books uh one of my favorites is by Steven Royo uh

I don’t have it here on me, but uh it’s a book describing a lot about Uranus,

Neptune, and Pluto as well as the water houses. Uh he takes a lot of his

excuse me, the psychology of astrology. He takes it from Carl Young.

Uh so I read this book about astrology. It’s called astrology, karma, and

transformation. Ooh, and it talks about how basically the

what that book is all about is that in order to understand how you want to evolve,

you should try to think about what you have been. Mhm. You know, because evolution builds

itself on what came before. Mhm. You know, if you want to be a person who

is strong, that usually means that you feel like you’re weak in some way. If you want to

be a person who is more expressive, that might mean that you’re a little bit

introverted. So, what you want to evolve into depends on what you’re coming from.

That’s your karma. You know, karma, it’s looked at as a bad thing, but really

your karma is the place where you stand in order for the plant to bloom and to grow and

to evolve. Karma, it’s uh I don’t regard it as being a bad or an evil thing. I think it’s where we

all stand. It’s our past. You can’t change the past, right? So I started reading these

books that talk about the psychology of astrology and put it in a youngian archetypal

framework. Mhm. Which is something that I just am very

sensitive to. Uh I can see the archetypes when I read astrology and I

would read these books. I could see these archetypes. So for about 5 years

after I read that sexology book, I was fascinated. So for 5 years, I started

playing with astrology and reading books on it. Uh I didn’t go to college or

anything like that. So I’ve always just been an artist who works like odd jobs

and but I consider myself a very studious person. So I took the reading of these books very seriously. you know, I didn’t think

that there was an astrology university out there. I didn’t think I could go to school for astrology. So, I just read my

own books and I took that very seriously uh for about 5 years. And then in 2018,

I found out that there is an astrologer who practices tropical vadic astrology.

I went into cidurial in 2017 and I thought, “Oh, I must be a Libra. I must

be a Cancer rising.” And then I did that for about a year and then I came back to

tropical astrology and I said no I’m a Scorpio. Uh and so but I because I’m such a lover

of yoga and all things Indian. I’m obsessed with all things Indian. Uh I’m a psychedelics

person. You know in the in the 1960s people were taking psychedelic

medicines and they were getting into meditation. you know the the Beatles

went to India and they saw the Maharishi and they all that stuff happened. I considered myself a hippie and I very

much identified with that whole era and all things Indian. Uh as time went on

I kind of learned that consciousness is more important than the instruments that

get you to them. You know psychedelics are cool but yoga is what psychedelics

are pointing at. Mhm. Mhm. Right. Love, truth, self-realization.

That’s what all that stuff in the ’60s was pointing at. So uh in 2018

I found a teacher who practices what I call tropical vadic astrology

which is someone who has the Indian tradition of astrology all the names all

the understandings the yogas there’s things called yogas there’s shadbala all this stuff that’s unique to vadic

astrology but they were doing it with western measurements guy’s name was well his name was Ernst

Wilhelm Mhm. Mhm. And he had another there was another person who was in his circle named Ryan

Kirksac. Ryan Ryan Kirksac had a school like an

apprenticeship and it was he still has it. You can find it. It’s called Asheville Vadic astrology.com.

At the time it was a 4-year course and he was very intensive about it.

Uh so there was three semesters. I started in 2018 or 2019,

excuse me, 2019 just while COVID and that whole thing was starting to ramp up.

In 2019, uh there was three semesters. I did one, two, three semesters. And then

2020 was another three semesters. 2021 was another three semesters. So I took

three years of a pretty intensive Vadic astrology school through Ryan. And

there’s that much to it. There’s a lot to astrology, especially the Vadic tradition. And I’m still there’s still

so much to learn. And then in the final year, Ryan kicked me into the water and said, “Sink or

swim. You got to learn to swim, buddy.” So, what he said was, uh, you have to go

out and find, I think it was about 52 charts. You have to do 52 readings for

people on a donation basis. Uh-huh. Mhm. You can ask for however much money you

want, but he said go out there and just do it basically by donation,

which means I was doing, you know, I’d sit with a person. I’d read their chart for an hour or two and then they’d give

me 20 bucks, 40 bucks, which is, you know, I would put I would read their chart for like four hours and then I’d

see them for like an hour or two cuz I wanted to make sure that I was doing this right. And it was very draining.

But eventually through doing that, my teacher forced me to learn how much

energy do I put into a chart reading, how much energy do I put into seeing them for an hour or two? Yeah.

How much money is that worth? How much time is it worth? It was all very hard

and felt strange and very difficult. Very difficult. But that was the best part of that training. Anybody who wants

to be an astrologer, I I think it’s a very good thing in the beginning to

depending, you know, not everyone want would want to do it this way, but you got to get out there at some point.

Yeah. You know, you could think that like I’ve got to wait till I’m perfect before I do astrology. Mhm.

This allowed me to I would have studied the rest of my life and never done a

reading. Of course, my teacher didn’t kick me off the kick me off the boat. said, “Just get out

there and do it, and then come back and show me a report.” So, I would get the the client to write

a report for me, and then I would write a a report and send them both to Ryan. And then he

would say, “Good, good.” You know, if I something went wrong, he would say he he would ask me about why

this client reading went wrong, and we would talk about it, and he’d be like, “Okay, good. Those things happen.”

And then we would move on. Ryan was a great teacher for me in that regard. I was very lucky, very blessed

for him to be that interested in me growing as an astrologer. He’s a tough as nails guy.

Uh, you know, he’s uh he’s got a lot of things in his chart that are good for me in my chart,

right? uh he kicked my ass basically and that’s exactly what I needed to be serious

about this to treat this as something that you know when you’re an astrologer in some ways you it’s good to be honest

when you don’t know something it’s good to be honest when I think this could be a thing but ultimately you’re you’re

holding people’s destiny in your hands yeah and emotions and I mean it’s something that shouldn’t be taken

lightly I think not at all yeah for sure But on the other hand, if you

take it so seriously that you never get out there and do it, then we’re never going to have any astrologers out there.

That’s true. That’s true. Find balance. So, um, Dustin, I think

you’re probably Yeah, you’re the youngest astrologer I’ve interviewed so far. So, I wanted I

wanted to to bring like a fresh voice obviously because I mean we have our our like astrologers from

the 60s that are now, you know, our our teachers, but as as a as someone from

the young generation, I’m I’m assuming you’re also Gen Z probably like me. I’m I’m a bit more like millennial. I’m

I’m born 1991. 91. Yeah. Yeah. So, where do you see

astrology in the future? What would be your um like as a young

per like as young astrologer, where would you like it to to be in the

future? Well, uh that’s an interesting question.

I see it in two ways. Number one is where do I see astrology on the whole going? And then the other side of it is

what does it mean to me in my future. Uh I know for myself that

I’m very blessed. Uh I think the universe has guided me to

come into astrology at a time where technology was just starting to boot up.

I was just in the generation just before the internet came out. Mhm. And then the internet came out. And so I

can see what the internet is in context. Yeah, it’s a very powerful tool. I I have a YouTube channel and I’m lucky

to still have people who watch my show. Uh you know, people come for a topic on

astrology and they stay for the vibration of the astrologer. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. Astrology is an art and a science. Yeah. So I was lucky to I I enjoy talking. I

love the sound of my own voice. Uh and uh I do this YouTube channel where with astrology you can teach and

you you can teach about things. There’s so much that no one’s talked about. Mhm. You know, I’m doing a va series right

now on the moon and its signs. And I do one video a month. I come out and say, “Okay, everybody, we’re doing cancer

moon this this month.” Mhm. Uh in the same way I’m doing the nakshhatras which is Vadic astrology’s

unique 27 constellations and I just come out once a month and I talk about that.

So people come for the information and they’re like oh I like this guy’s vibe. You know, it’s not that I’m amazing.

It’s that some there are some people, you know, I don’t think anybody is like you well,

some people are universally amazing. But in the case of when you’re finding an astrologer,

it’s a it’s it’s not that the person is amazing, it’s that I like this person,

right? This person is the kind of person I want to listen to. It’s a subjective. Uhhuh. I think it’s both ways, right?

like okay I like this person but you might not like him or you may find him annoying so it’s like a like the vibe

you pick up I guess and and how comfortable do you feel no Yep for sure for sure so I have been

enjoying leaning into that I’ve spent a lot of time you know YouTube and

teaching online becoming a teacher in that way it’s its own whole crazy bag but for me I love to do it

and it gets me a lot of clients I do have a lot of people who say, “Hey, Dustin, I love the way you do astrology.

I’d love for you to do my astrology chart.” Mhm. So, for me, astrology has become this

thing that I can do anywhere in the world. Yeah. If I have my microphone and my camera, I can take my laptop. I can go to Spain

and sit in a little cafe or in my little hostel and I can do my work.

I get paid the money that I get from the person and then I get to keep doing what all the other things that I do. Mhm.

So, it’s a very uh it’s tough to make it

tough tough to make it a a full living until you start getting lots of clients.

You know, even now I have other things that I’m blessed to be making money from. You know, it’s excuse me, it it

can be tough to make a living off of it. It’s a slow grind to get yourself to the point where you have that many people

coming in looking for a reading all the time. But eventually you get people who are like, “Dustin, I loved how you did it three

years ago. We did an astrology reading. Now I need you again for uh to have your

voice talk with me about another thing.” So for me, it’s a wonderful tool that

I’m always going to have. I’m always going to do it. And not only it’s not just for the money,

it’s also I’m I’m contributing to consciousness. For me, it’s a spiritual thing as well.

When I do a good reading and me and the person both know that I help them figure

something out that my unique capacity as a as a as an

astrologer, as a psychologist minded person, as a counselor, I help them see

themselves in a context that is no one else could see themselves could could show them.

That to me is it’s a spiritual thing for me as well. Mhm.

So those are my answers. It’s very practical. It’s very uh I can make my

own schedule. I can travel with it. And it’s a spiritual service

to the world and I get things back from it. Not that you know when it comes to spirituality

you don’t do things expecting a return but the universe I I put in my work for

the universe through my Saturn I call it and the universe supports me through

that service that I do. So that’s that’s just an incredible

that’s the best answer I could give for what astrology is of me high-fiving the universe and it

high-fiving back. Nice. Right. That’s interesting. So let’s yeah let’s

talk about the business part of astrology because um I think it’s something

if if you’ve been an astrologer or you know you’ve been doing readings I think we all struggle in the beginning because

nowadays you know you need to build your own community you need to I mean for me

personally and I don’t want to talk about me too much but it was like a personal journey of discovering like okay I want to do astrology but like who

am I why am I doing It was my vibe, you know, like it was a whole journey that I

now stopped a little bit because, you know, I have like this transits hitting me all over. But

but then making money, yeah, I think it’s it’s part of like it’s a little bit a challenge for some other astrologers.

It comes easier, but I think the business part of astrology, it’s there. So, how how do you deal with

that business side of astrology? How I mean do you leave out of it? Do

you do other things? Obviously many of us also do other things and there are astrologers that can leave from

astrology but how was it for you your personal good these are great questions. Um, and

you know, I think it’s great that what you’re doing, uh, I think you must have some cool 7th house energy happening in

your chart because Yeah. Well, obviously some of it’s working for you because you’re putting

in the effort to serve the people in your community and you’re getting your face out there

and you’re you’re doing what I’m talking about. You’re doing some good Saturn work, which means you put in to the

community and the community serves you. I have Saturn in the seventh house. Ah,

so do I. I had a feeling that you did. God bless you. Well, my Saturn thanks

your Saturn. High five in Scorpio. Yes. Oh, beautiful. Beautiful. Oh,

you’re Taurus rising. Lovely. Yeah. Yeah. Is that right? Your Taurus rising. I’m Taurus rising. Yeah. Cool. Beautiful.

Uh, so, you know, when it comes to I talk about this side of things a lot is

getting out there. That’s why I often tell that story of my teacher kicking my ass to just go out there and do some

donation readings in the beginning. Now, what’s nice is that around the time I was in school,

uh, you know, something that helped me, I got in at a lucky time to do this sort

of thing because AI is making things a little different for people for YouTube,

you know. I so what I did uh I’ve got books that talk about so okay so there’s

a a a reading that you could get where for example you have the sun sign and the moon sign

so since 2013 2014 I had this thing where I wanted to learn

about astrology and so in order to learn about it I wanted to read it and I thought if I’m going to read it I

might as well also go on a camera and videotape myself

reading it. Ah, right. So, I read this book and it’s sun sign, moon sign. So, I went from Aries

sun, Aries moon, Aries sun, Taurus moon, Aries sun, Gemini moon, Aries sun,

cancer moon. I would go through all all of them, all 12 of those combinations. And

yes, you got it. The all because there’s 12 sun signs and 12 moon signs. Altogether there’s 144 different

combinations. Wow. I I read them all because I wanted to learn about astrology. So if I if I want

to know what Aries is, you really have to know what Taurus and Gemini and Cancer and Leo and Virgo and Libra is.

So you know Aries is opposite Libra. It’s tr Leo and Sagittarius. It’s square

Cancer and Capricorn. All of those things tell you about what Aries is.

Mhm. But I knew that. I in I intrinsically knew that. So what I did was in order to just get a sense of it.

It’s like I’m like a musician. You know, when you’re playing a G chord, when you go to a C chord, a different chord,

you’re like if you need to see the other chord in the context of the first chord.

Uhhuh. One chord stands on its own. It’s like seeing the color red on its

own. You just see a red picture. like it almost you almost it doesn’t even mean anything. But if you throw some blue in

there, it’s like, oh, now I there’s a there’s a contrast. It’s I’m now I know what red really is,

right? Same way, right? You know, with astrology, I wanted to see those

differences. So, I wanted to read this book and go through all the combinations. And I

thought while I’m doing it, I might as well go on camera and go on my microphone and go through all 144

combinations and then put them on YouTube. Oh wow. That’s how you started.

Yep. That’s how I did it is that I put those on there. Now these days I was

lucky I did that. Those videos got a lot of views. Nice. Now, these days, it’s likely the

case that in a couple years, someone’s just going to look up my combination. You know, I’ve got sun in Scorpio, moon

in Sagittarius. Tell me about it. And the AI is probably going to borrow from the videos that I did.

Yes. And take the the information and give it to the person through AI. So, I got in,

I got some views, people know me, they saw my face, and that was a great lucky

start for me. Uh, so these days, people have got to

learn what’s going to happen with AI, learn how to, you know, learn what they’ve got

to do to contribute to the community just like you are. Like it’s a great thing that what you’re

doing because AI can’t catch what you’re doing

because you are well, you know, you’re a real person interviewing real people,

right? It can’t uh, you know, AI can do a lot, but it can’t replicate personalities.

I mean, at some level it can eventually, but it’s there’s all, you know, I’m Dustin Cormier. There’s no AI that’s

ever gonna be what we’re doing right now. Yeah. Yeah. So this is an example of how

people have to think of what can I do to contribute to the education sphere and

to put my vibration out there at the same time. Interesting. And I think that reading

reading from books has been a great way for me to do it cuz a lot of the times when I first started I’m not a genius

astrologer. But when I started I would read from books you know whatever book I feel like

reading and when people come to me they know I would say okay everybody this is

Steven Royo’s chart interpretation book. Yeah, it’s a good one, right? And you

know, I would say, all right, so we’re reading about the ascendant and we’ve got the ascendant in Libra.

So, this is from this book, everybody. So, when I’m reading it, even if what

I’m reading is not, excuse me, uh is not like 100% correct. People I’m not wrong

because I’m reading from a book. Yeah, you’re Yeah. to people if people want to hear this book, they can hear it

on my channel. That’s really cool. And then you give your your your like

approach. I I’m imagining. You got it. You got it. Yep. I would say so this is what I think about what he

just said, right? But then ultimately people would get my vibration and how I think about things

and they would be getting that reading from that book. Very interesting. So that’s an example

of something for someone who’s trying to start out getting an an an excuse and an

opportunity to contribute to the community and to get themselves out

there at the same time. Yeah. To get the vibration out there, right?

Yeah. And I think now that the new you know our new generation is also, you

know, bringing astrology mix with something else and they make their own kind of like unique method. And I mean

there are so many ways to use astrology in the end. So I think the new generations are bringing

more this like combinations like I don’t know astrology at work, astrology and

babies, you know, whatever it is. So so I I think there is a lot to I mean to

offer in that in that regard, right? For sure. And I think it’s worth saying too that uh you know I have Saturn in

the seventh house. uh one of the and that’s a Saturn likes to be there. I’ve got a nice happy

Saturn. I’m very happy with it in my chart. And uh what you know how I how I

think about that is that what’s a good thing for people to consider

is finding a niche, you know, instead of necessarily

[Music] Yeah, I don’t know. This is just where my brain is at right now is that one of

the reasons that I have stood out in my

own perspective of myself is that I am contributing to a niche

community. Mhm. So I’m a tropical Vadic astrologer,

very specific community and I had a teacher who taught me all of the nuanced

things about this particular school of astrology. So when I went out there I would say

this is my lineage and this is who I learned from and this is what I’m talking about today. Okay. Okay. So know that way people can

see that you know with astrology it’s kind of like uh it’s kind of eat

like eating a meal. T truth be told like I’m someone at Thanksgiving I just put the potatoes and

the gravy. I just smash it all together because it’s all I just love it all in my mouth at the same time. But if you’re

going to be a good chef, you’re let’s say you’re making Italian,

you stick to Italian, you’re going to have Italian eggplant with oregano and basil. You’re going to

have a pasta. You’re going to have cheese. You’re going to have wine. Make the whole thing Italian

cuz then it’s, you know, we’re eating Italian today. It’s one unit of conscious. I see where you’re going. Yeah.

Right. You don’t, you know, let’s have like uh let’s have some yogurt and

let’s have some hummus and let’s have some uh French fries, you know, right next to

my pasta. Like you don’t want to mix things up in that way when you’re a good chef because then people come for the catered

experience of the one unitary. Oh, that’s such a nice way to put it. Yeah, you’re right. Yeah. You know, and

I think as astrologers, when you can start doing that, doesn’t mean you can’t mix things up. I’m

definitely somebody who mixes things up, but I have contributed again to a

community that has now that people now recognize me for as being a part of a

lineage. And I think that that is a way to solidify for people instead of being

scattered, right? you know, instead of becoming scrambled eggs, you know, you start off

trying to make an omelette and it turns into scrambled eggs. Then people,

you know, you uh it’s nice when again people can recognize

I’m not just coming to you for you. Although a lot of people come to me because I’m Dustin Cormier. They know

that Dustin Cormier is going to give them tropical vadic astrology. Yeah, it’s my unique take on it and I bring my

own things into it. But that pillar helps people to know

what am I looking for in an astrologer. I’m looking for this particular thing. That’s

and I know that Dustin has that particular thing. This helps people to get a grip on you at for what you have

to offer as an astrologer. I think it’s just scattered. Yeah, it’s a brilliant question for for I mean for

people who are listening to astrology to actually question what do I look for in

the in in in astrology? No, because in the in the Spanish community from where

I’m from, I see many like people just complaining in the comments like, “Oh, he didn’t do that or he did la.” Like

it’s different. The audiences are different in English and Spanish, I have to say. But in the end, I think what you

said is so important. Okay, she didn’t do that or he didn’t say that or you’re not what are you looking for in in an

astrologer, you know? I think it’s a very valid question to actually before

we listen to someone is what what do I want to get? I mean if you want to get a

you know how does the next week looks that’s valid you know but if you want to

do that and you come to Dustin who is much more profound and in depth then

maybe not you know like I think people tend to forget that they also need to

question certain things especially in in you know social media environments um to get for sure you know it’s nice

for a cl a person when they are you know I don’t expect to be the be all end all

you know that’s another thing astrologers have to understand is that do you want to be everything

or do you want to be good at a specific type of astrology because by trying to be everything to

everybody you might be a jack of all trades and this is one of the things that I see

is uh it weakens our astrology what I what I if I was an astrology client

what I’d like to do is if I’m going to get my if I want to look five years

ahead into the future, I want to go to a tropical vadic astrologer

who I know has studied that. Mhm. And then I want to go to an evolutionary astrologer

who I know has studied that. And then I want to go to a human design practitioner who I know has studied

that. And then I want to go to uh a classical western astrologer who I know has

studied that. Each time I’m it’s like a color by numbers. Yeah.

I want the green to stay green. I want the orange to stay orange. I want the red to stay red. Then I can paint this.

I can get a sense that I’ve checked every chapter. I’ve looked at every

color in in the color palette of my crayon box. Now, when you when you don’t do that,

when it’s just like, I want to go see this person and then I want to go see this person. If you’re seeing people and

you’re getting different ideas of your future, I if you don’t if there’s no label, if

there’s no school, if they don’t come from a solid school, then it becomes like, you know, who do I

what do they mean? You know, like who who do I follow more? Oh, yeah, you’re right. I like this person more, but should you

go with an astrologer just necessarily because you like them more or should

they be presenting a clear color in the color palette. You know

those color by number pictures? Do you know those? It’s like the number one and it’s going to be green.

Yeah. All the Right. I love colors. Psychology of color. There’s a lot there for sure. But that’s

my point is that it’s good for astrologers and clients to recognize that lineage makes our approach a lot

clearer. There’s no better. There’s no best lineage. We’re all speaking

different languages about the same reality. Yes. And so the more clear we are about each

individual language, about each individual lineage, about each individual tradition,

the more we can organize them and harmonize them. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. And I think

that this is important in today’s astrology approach because there’s so many different types of astrology. We

don’t want to make it so that it’s all a hodgepodge of data that has no organization.

I think that’s me being a very Virgo person. You have something in Virgo. I’m wondering.

Yeah. Yes, I sure do. I got Jupiter and and Venus there actually. Ah, there you go. Yeah. So, I have Virgo

moon. So, yeah. So that’s brilliant because I was thinking that you know I was thinking of astrology now it’s so

huge and you’re right I mean I mean I like my astrologers you like your teachers and your astrologers but that

doesn’t mean they’re probably the astrologer for a specific reading or a specific guidance you need

at certain moments. So I think bringing the what you brought about okay yeah but

like what are you looking for? Is it like I don’t know health, relationship,

but you’re gonna you’re not going to go to your business astrologer for relationship advice, you know? So, also

I think people that like us that were using astrology, we also need to question things before blaming the

astrologer because he didn’t tell me what I expected or, you know, or the

answers I was hoping for or the guidance, you know. So that’s a really really cool interesting thing to that

you brought up and I think I would also say you know it not only what you’ve mentioned but a lot of

the times people will come to me expecting a certain type of answer and I

give them the answer that Dustin would give them cuz I know what side my bread is buttered on.

I know what I’m best to give as an astrologer. Now, that’s why it’s good for people, I think, to go to when

you’re looking for something, when really something really important is going on in your life, unless you don’t have the money for it,

but you know, to see more than one astrologer, cuz even if you come to an astrologer and

he’s got a bit, every astrologer does a bit of everything. Yeah. You go to your business astrologer, you

get a certain perspective on it, and they I’m sure no matter what, they’re going to give you something

that’s useful. My point is is that whatever they give you will be good,

but it’ll be seen in a more clear context if you also see another astrologer. Yeah. Yeah, I get you.

You see them from two different lenses, two different vantage points because

every astrologer is going to bring something different to the to the inquiry. Yeah. Yeah. And I think also the

like in Spanish we have a say like we all share from where we come from.

Meaning that even in our practice we bring up like you know unconsciously

certain experiences. That’s why I’ve been finding out with this interviews that every astrologer

has a particular journey and then and then hence or airgo the astrology they

do. It’s so interesting. Totally. So yeah, that that’s that’s brilliant. But Dustin, coming back to

you, are there any like transits in your chart that you’re like looking forward

to in 2026 or challenging ones that you’re like this Pluto square Pluto,

whatever you’re going through? Can you can you share something with us about on that note?

I’d say you well, you know, Pluto square Pluto is is going on for me. You know, uh I’m very excited about what’s called

Burbose Basket. Yes. If you’ve ever heard of it, I heard your interview with Steve and

you brought it up. So, yes. Right. Right. So, uh that’s uh Pluto is

in Aquarius now. Uh Neptune is going to be at the first degree of Aries.

Mhm. And then Uranus is at the beginning of Gemini in 2026. Mhm.

Uh those three points all coming into masculine signs

being in a trine and with the Neptune and the sexile are all very interesting especially for

anybody who has planets around one degree of Libra. Cuz that’s that’s the handle of the

basket. Ah yes right that’s the umbrella point. So the the handle of the the basket.

Oh I know someone. Okay. Okay. Go on. Well my my Venus is right there. So, Venus is my ruling planet.

So, I’m excited. I can feel that stuff happening. Uh, I have I have Saturn at the

beginning of ar of excuse me, I have Saturn at the beginning of Aquarius. So, Pluto going through my Saturn right

now has been ringing me and causing me to change my approach to life, my approach to money.

I feel Yeah, you’re 1991. You’re going through that Saturn Pluto thing. Oh,

yeah. Please tell us more. Oh yeah, it’s been it’s been great for me because I think that I have a a good

Saturn. According to tropical vadic astrology, I got Saturn coming out of my ears.

It’s uh it’s it’s very well placed by being in Aquarius. It’s all sign.

Uh and it’s happy in the seventh house. So for me,

lots of very positive changes have been happening for me. Um, particularly with

regard to my heart, living with a heart, there’s been things that are moving

through me that are teaching me the importance of living, thinking about my heart, thinking about like what do I

want to have and meeting my meeting my opposite gender in

the middle, meeting womankind in the middle as a man, showing up as a man.

You know, I’m again, sorry, I got it. I’m just gonna cough for just one sec. Yeah, cough, drink some water, do

whatever you need. No worries. Like I had a little bit of a a mild sickness this last month, but I’m

mostly over it. Yeah, you told me. That’s true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I’m feeling better now, though. I forgot to ask.

Uh oh, it’s okay. No, I’m I’m doing much better. Thank you for ask Thank you for asking now. Um, yeah. So, I’m uh, you

know, I’m somebody who I think especially while Pluto was going through Capricorn, I’m somebody who is, I went

through a real non-binary phase, was exploring like bisexuality.

Uh, really exploring the depths of all different sorts of sexuality for myself.

Uh, and that was an important journey of, you know, I’m still a very feminine guy

and I’m still like almost like twospirited as people would say, but I present as masculine. I present as

a man and as a man I’m looking for a woman partner. I’ve landed there. It’s

been good for me because a lot of people as guys were afraid to play around with

that area. It’s like, oh no, now I’ve I caught the gay and now I’m gay forever.

You know, so I played around with it myself and felt it and now I’m on the other side of it. And

you know, I think it’s been very good for me to explore all of this in

understanding what my masculinity is and what a woman is and what her femininity is.

So Pluto’s going through my seventh house. Yeah. Going over my Saturn. I’ve had to a lot

of experiences of what does it mean for me to invest in building a life that

meets my partner in the middle. Mhm. And I’ve never thought about things that

way. I’ve always been almost like it’s been a it’s been a long thing for me.

It’s like I’m expect I was expecting somebody to show up in my life because I work so hard at the things I do. I work

so hard on my astrology channels. I do things for my friends. God’s just going to give me a lover surely for all this

stuff that I’ve done. But now I’m learning that I kind of have to show up. I have to manifest it. I have to think

about it. And one of the very important things in that regard has been money.

I used to just I I used to be smoke a lot of pot. Mhm. I used to be like, “Money is controlled

by the feds in America and they print all the news and so the money is worth nothing anyway.” I went through a whole

phase like that. But I’ve gotten into investing. I’ve learned very well. Uh I’ve taken a

lot of time to understand a well diversified portfolio of investments

and I take a huge a chunk of my money and I put it away as an investment. I

try to put in $500 a month into an investment that is now growing for me.

Uh I’ve learned my own way of doing investments for the long haul.

You know, you put your money into diversified equity stocks. And you want

to do like big ETFs which hold like 9,000 different stocks all over the world because the stock market is always

going up especially because the Feds are printing money like it’s candy. So hard

assets are always going to be going up in value. So instead of me just making money disappear, holding it in these

investments is going to make my money grow. This is something that when I think about it, I’m investing in a

concrete manifestation of the love that I seek in my heart. I don’t want to just dream about the

love that I want. I want to put in time and energy investment. I’ve I I I wear

my own cologne that I’ve worked out. It’s basically Julian,

right? And I do it with intention. I think about like, you know, I would love the lover that I that I manifest and

receive in my life to know that I’m that I’m there with them, that I’m thinking about them, that

I’m doing things about them in this way. And I know it sounds sweet, but the sad part is is these are all things that I

never thought about. No, I just expected a woman to just come and

just fall into my arms and I No, but the intention that you’re working on the intention, I think that’s

really cool, like powerful even, you know, that Thank you.

Yeah, that’s really nice. I don’t know. So, um Dustin, tell us, are you teaching

now? Are you like giving readings right now? Uh what are you up to and where can we find you if we want to work with you?

Thank you, Myra. Thank you for asking. Uh so my big thing right now is I’m writing books. Mhm.

Now if anybody wants to see the books uh that I’ve got coming through, uh I’ve

got a website. You can go to dustincoremmet.com. And if you really want to be uh to know

what’s happening with me, you can go to dustincoremmet.com/subscribe or on my website, you’ll find an email

list that you can subscribe to. And there. Yep. And you’ll when you go there,

you’ll be able to see that’s me. And you’ll be able to see and hear when I have these new books coming out. I’ve

got an astrology book coming out sometime in the next, you know, sometime before I die hopefully.

Uh they do take their time as I’m learning. But I’m also what I’m most excited about

for the world of astrology. I’m writing a poetry book right now called The Dirty Virgo Diaries.

What? Totally. That’s so cool. Totally. So for me, I’m got a lot of

Virgo in my chart. It’s not just because Virgo and Venus uh Jupiter and Venus are there. My atmakar Venus is in Virgo and

it’s what’s called Vargata. So Virgo is my swamshia for those who are into Vadic

astrology. So I’m very Virgo. So I’m writing this book and you know Virgo is the place where Venus is

debilitated. Mhm. Uh, so this book that I’m writing about

poetry, it’s very romantic and it’s very it’s a it’s dirty. It has a lot of sex

sexual stuff in it. Uh, but it’s also talks about how

uh it’s it’s kind of unsexying in a lot of ways because I talk about all the things that I had to do, my mother and

father, what they did that caused me childhood difficulty, that made me not

trust my own sexuality, that made me not trust women. Uh, and at times when I’ve

been rejected, when I was in high school, I think those that [ __ ] [ __ ] you know, like this this kind of

I really come out with this angle to describe the ugly shadow side of

romance. Mhm. Uh but within it are these gems of

learning that to forgive womankind and to forgive myself, to forgive my

parents, and realize that we’re all actually beautiful.

But we have to see through our own mud, see through the dirt on the mirror.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In order to see that women are the most beautiful cuz I’m a man. Woman is the

most beautiful thing because they are my complimentary opposite. But men are also beautiful. Everyone is

beautiful. We just have to see through our own [ __ ] And that’s what the dirty Virgo diary is all about.

Oh my god. Very raw. So So when is it coming? Uh I think within the next two years

that congratulations. That’s really cool. Thank you. I’m very excited about it. So for everybody who wants to check me out,

you can check out my website. Mhm. As well, if you want to see all the things I’m doing with astrology, you go

to How to Rock astrology on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. How to rock astrology. Guys,

I’m going to leave Dustin’s uh social media, his website in the description below or in the comment. You going to

see a pinned comment. Maybe it’s going to be there. So, so Dustin, you have here on my on my services, you have a

full reading and a call reading. Mhm. So, can you tell us the difference so people know? Certainly. Thank you, Myra.

That’s a great question. So, you know, I do offer cold readings and what that

means is I don’t study the chart before I meet with you. I just meet you. I bring up your chart

and it’s like, “Okay, so what’s your birth time?” And I look up your birth time and I go, “Okay, so what do you

want to talk about?” And when I do that, I charge a dollar per minute.

So, it’s $60 for an hour. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Right now, people can just like, Dustin, I just

have a quick question about something, right? I could talk with you for a half an hour and it’ll be only 30 bucks American.

That’s brilliant. You know, so what I’d prefer for people to do most of the time,

uh, for take it with however many grains of salt you wish, but it’s, you know, I I prefer the best

thing is to do the full reading. It cost $200 and I sit with you and I read your chart

for about an hour and a half before I meet with you. Mhm. And I take the time to really digest

everything in your chart because the chart speaks to you. Now, this is the reason why I think this is the best way

to do it. If you know, let’s say if I go to the doctor and I say, “Hey doctor, I’ve got a nose

bleed. Can you give me some tissue to like stuff up there? Or can you give me a pill to make my nose stop bleeding?

The doctor goes, “Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let’s Why is your nose bleeding?” Right?

Let’s find that out first and then we’ll deal with if I’m going to give you a pill or something like that. You don’t

go into the doctor and say, “Hey doctor, I need you to do this.” What you do is you come to the doctor

and you say, “Doctor, what’s wrong with me?” Yeah. And then when you ask the doctor like that, you be respectful. You ask the

doctor what’s wrong with you. The doctor looks at everything because you might your nose might be

bleeding for something that has to do with something that you’d never expect. You know, if you go to a mechanic and

you say, “Hey, my my radiator keeps blowing up. I my my my fuel my lines to

my fan to the to the hot air keep blowing up all the time. Why does that

keep happening?” Right? If you come to the mechanic and you ask them, “What’s wrong with the system that’s causing that to happen?”

And the mechanic will stop it from happening. But if you come to the mechanic, you just say, “Hey, fix my fuel lines.”

He’s just going to be like, “Okay.” He’s going to fix them. And then a month later, they’re going to blow up. They’ll be back. Yeah.

So, it’s better to get a systemic overview of something going on with your life. And that is the full reading. I

think that’s the best thing to do with an astrologer is allow them to take the time to look at your whole chart and to

see your whole experience in context. But it’s good for me to offer both because I do get I do get both. But most

people come to me for the bigger reading which I’m happy about. That’s cool. Yeah. Yeah, that’s really cool actually.

A lot of the times I’ll I’ll do the big reading and then someone will come for the cold reading in like a year or two

cuz we’ve already done the big reading. you don’t. Yeah, that’s also a good option. I think that now that you’re

familiar, then you come back for like a question or just you know a small insight or guidance

something. That’s really cool. Yeah, you got it. So guys, Dustin Cormir, Tropical Vic,

astrologer. Dustin, thank you so much for being here. I obviously hope to have you back to keep talking about astrology

and your practice and our challenges you face and all these things going on and obviously about your Saturn transit with

Pluto. I I find that so fascinating. So please keep us posted about that. People are asking also that generation 1991

are asking like you know what’s all about and now you’re here with us. So you’re living it going through through

this. I love to talk about it. It’s been doing me some good. And thank you, Myra. Thank you for letting me on. Thank you

for everything. I think that it’s wonderful what you’re doing. Uh I’m sure that your audience loves you and I’m

very glad to be connected to you and to your audience and to everything. I I really appreciate your time as well.

Thank you, Dustin, for your time and energy and everything you do uh for astrology. And well, thank you guys for

staying until the end. I hope you enjoy this episode. And Dustin, you’re always welcome here. And guys, thank you for

watching. So, see you in the next episode. Take care.