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So that was the first time when I left the country and then I went to London and then what can I do you know let let
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me work uh again in McDonald’s and then I worked my way up from a shift manager to a restaurant manager pretty much in a
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year time. So I did a catering uh for 20 years pretty much 22 I made a video
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basically and then it broke the internet somehow. What was really challenge is
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that February uh 2018 all of a sudden I had this breakthrough. I had 400 orders
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within one week. So I did uh my full-time job and the Slog stuff for
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about 5 months. I was not brave enough to leave my job behind because I was
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like what if it’s going to stop?
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Welcome to Backstage Astrology, where we take off the expert mask and get real.
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My name is Myra. I’m an astrology enthusiast and also a creative advisor.
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I’ve been helping astrologers with their digital stuff for a few years. And the more I get to see them behind the
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scenes, the more I realize that also our astrologers go through a lot of big
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challenges. They have big fears, big insecurities. So, in this new series,
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I’m trying to talk to astrologers and to really understand what goes on with their lives behind the scenes, all the
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challenges they have faced as astrologers before and actually. And I
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hope you enjoy this series. Let’s see how many astrologers I can get here. We’re going to talk about the personal
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struggles. And in the second part, we kind of dive into the transits and insights they are passionate about, the
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ones that they fear the most, the ones that they find most inspiring. If you really like this conversations, please,
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please like the video. Help me a little bit with the algorithm to get the message across. And obviously, I know
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this is for a very specific niche. I’m guessing you’re here because you love astrology and you admire astrologers as
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well. And of course, let’s get real. Let’s get real with the astrologers. Let’s try to uncover what happens behind
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the scenes. So, thank you for being here and I really hope you enjoy each episode.
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Well, today I am honored to be with one of my teachers, Victor Simon or Astro
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Victor. Before I get started, let’s just know get to know Victor. So, I’m going to introduce him and then Victor, you
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can introduce yourself as well. Victor is widely recognized as a gifted teacher
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and he stands out for offering one of the most extensive catalogs of online
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astrology courses. His programs cover an impressive range of topics from
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planetary aspects and zodiac signs to advanced chart interpretation tailored
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to the modern practice of astrologer. He is the author of dynamics of planetary
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aspects interpreting planetary aspects in a bare chart. The other book which I
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loved is vocational astrology illuminating the path to career success.
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And his last book is about money if I’m not mistaken. Right. So that’s right.
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Also he is an astronom like he basically changes place every six months. And like
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there is so much going on. Victor, how do you manage all the things you do and all the things you have done for the
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astrological community? Well, first of all, hi everyone and thanks having me.
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Well, how I do maybe I need to be grateful uh to my Saturn which is very
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tightly trining my rising sign. So, I think I’m pretty okay with time management, even though I’ve got mainly
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mutable planets, which can indicate that someone is all over the place, especially with um Pisces and um
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Sagittarius placements. But I think Saturn helped me a lot to manage my time
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efficiently. And uh even though with my Pisces or with the lot of mutable energy that I’ve
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got, I tend to procrastinate. really you have time for that? I have
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time for that and then often I do things in the very last minute. So I still
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haven’t mastered that part of it but I always finish on time. So that’s a good part. Uh I think it’s the the thrill you
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know the the chase as well that oh my days I only have got one day left. I have to finish it off and you know then
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I sit down and I bang it out very quickly. Great. And I remember from your
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classes because sometimes you use your chart for examples. Do you have a heavy 9inth house or 10th house? Well, in
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royal sign it’s 10th in plus it’s ninth. Can you tell us more about that because
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I think this is something uh we can clearly see you know you have was it Sagittarius or Capricorn? Sagittarius.
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Yes. So yeah I mean Sagittarius 9inth house is uh is very much about teaching.
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Now if you have got Sagittarius on the 10th house cusp as well then the profession could be related to teaching
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publishing and all these type of things. This is exactly what we learn right now in the vocational revisit revisiting
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course because I think uh many of us are struggling with um finding their true
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vocation and that’s and I’m guessing the reason why I’m so dedicated towards vocational
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and financial astrology is because I’ve got a lot of energy in the 10th house.
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So obviously that is connected to professions and higher kind of like goals and achievement and I have always
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been very motivated to to achieve something in life. Obviously there’s a psychological component involved there
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which potentially I’m not going to go into but uh but um it also often means
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that we might be struggling with our private life you know. So you you asked me, you know, are traveling around and
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so forth. A Sagittarius is often not going to travel around because they want to find meaning in life. Uh but the
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downfall is that they might not be sticking around long enough to find that meaning and then they are ready for the
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next adventure. So yeah, I mean it’s a double-edged sword, but um I’m not
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struggling with time management. Um, I wake up in the morning, my days are
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pretty boring to be frank, I must say. Um, not much of an excitement there is
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in it. I wake up in the morning, I walk my doggies, then I get home, get ready for the gym, and then after gym, we have
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breakfast with the doggies and we have a nap. Cuz after gym, I always need a nap.
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And then I’m ready to do some work. And um then again walk with the dogs and
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then a bit of work again and then last walk with the dogs and then in the evening I’m just like a true Pisces
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rising sign. I’m watching uh movies and listening to music and multitasking.
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That’s what actually um mutable people are really good at. They can be doing two things at the same time. Um, and
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that’s the reason why my slides are often um full-on grammar mistakes or especially spelling mistakes because I’m
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watching, let’s say, Sex in the City and then I’m typing up the material that is
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going to be presented at the weekend and then here it is where the, you know, the
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procrastination and stuff like that comes in. I don’t have the time to check out the spellings. So when I am teaching
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and I can see a word misspelled big time, I’m like, “Oh, it’s so frustrating.” But anyway, you know,
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that’s what it is nature fully. Yeah. The the message gets
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across, which is what matters, I think. And actually, I wanted to talk to you now because you mentioned you have a you
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know a heavy non house and what what was your job before before becoming an
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astrologer. Can you tell us a little bit of your journey? Yes. Um, well, I started working at the
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age of 14 and a half due to financial problems and I needed money for my
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studies because my grandparents could not afford sending me to high school. So, I started working in McDonald’s
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and um, like a true 10th house position, it gets recognized very quickly for that
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talent. So by the age of 19 I was the youngest restaurant manager in the country and uh then I left the country
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uh well also when you have got strong mutable energy sometimes you just shut
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the door immediately behind something and then you go somewhere else. So that was the first time when I left the
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country and then I went to London and then what can I do you know let let me
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work uh again in McDonald’s and then I worked my way up from a shift manager to a restaurant manager pretty much in a
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year time. So I did catering uh for a
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good um 20 years pretty much 22 20 in the same field but uh thank god I
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always had different challenges so every year I was sent to a different restaurant
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and then eventually the last few years I was doing just uh management trainings
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HR hiring and that was a you know a step closer to what I’m meant to be doing.
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And then and then uh when I decided that it’s time to do something for myself um
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that’s when um basically I left my job and then started um just as full-time.
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So I haven’t done different types of jobs. I always did management basically
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like a tempo should do. Interesting. Yeah. And and when can you share that
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moment when you knew astrology would become a defining path in your life? I know you have done it for a for like a
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long time but but when was know how was that moment when you said you know what like this is it let’s just try this
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I mean it was the age of 19 when um 18 when my grandmother passed away and then
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the following year um I stumbled upon spiritual topics and
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then age 20 when uh I started studying astrology. So and then I have always
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known from that moment that I wanted to do it but I I never felt ready enough. Often I think this is also a big problem
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for many students that they don’t want to open up their wings. they are, you know, we become forever students
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and if there is no courage there to step outside of the comfort zone and we end up doing the same old job that we
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are used to and uh but um yeah I tried breaking out in 2014 but due to health
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issues of uh parents um I couldn’t carry on so basically the time arrived around
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2018 uh but it was always something that I wanted to do at one point I kind of gave
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up on it especially because I started seeing death in the charts and I wasn’t
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really about it. Um I felt uh people
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were about to depart and so one and then I had to make peace
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with that. So I kind of gave up for a couple of years and then I came back on and yeah I’m ready. So,
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and what do you what do you think brought you back? Like because you were okay, maybe I shouldn’t do this, but then something told you, “No, no, no, go
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on.” Or how was the moment when you said, “Okay, maybe maybe yes, I’ll I’ll take it seriously.”
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Oh, I don’t know. I was uh 29. I remember that.
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And um I remember from that moment I felt like I needed change. But Neptune was in my
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very much um starting to transit my first house. I didn’t know what the change needed to be and Neptune started
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squaring my vocational planets in the 10th house. So I was really confused
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what I wanted to do but I knew that something was missing and then actually the deciding factor was I believe that I
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was like it’s time to refresh my knowledge time to take some courses and then um I signed up um on some lectures
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with Frank Clifford Mhm. in London schools of astrology. Uh so I took some
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of his seminars and so forth and then I kind of fell in love with astrology all over again.
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Um and I think maybe that was kind of like a a push I believe.
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Yeah. And what was the biggest challenge you faced transitioning from
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your old job to actually take astrology seriously? What was the the challenge? I
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never have challenges with these. So if I decide to move on then I move on. What was really challenge is that
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February uh 2018 all of a sudden I had this breakthrough. I had 400 orders
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within one week. And uh obviously you have a full-time
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job then try to complete uh 400 orders and and this was within 4 days pretty
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much and it didn’t slow down. It it wasn’t that like let’s say 15 orders
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came in every week. So, I tried to clear my schedule and then it just didn’t
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work. But I did not I was not brave enough to leave my job behind because I
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was like, what if it’s going to stop like it’s just kind of like, you know, you become a a one trick pony type of
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thing. I made a video basically and then it broke the internet somehow. And then
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what happened there? Jupiter was transiting my Uranus around that time
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which is the lottery winning and uh com combination and so I did uh my full-time
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job and the Slog stuff for about five months but it cost my health basically
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so I was working 16 hours a day minimum try to do at least five clients a day uh
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and plus obviously my main job as And then um you know around July I got tired
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and I realized that I was too fat. I put on a lot of weight because
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no cooking, no gym, no private life. So I was just ordering Chinese for lunch. I
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don’t know, you know, Turkish for evening breakfast. Let’s grab some
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bakery stuff, you know, on the go. And then I ended up rolling like a ball. So
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I was like, I have to do something about it. So eventually I left my workplace. Well, you know, it’s always interesting
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because Saturn was transiting my 10th house around that time and um if you
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don’t make the necessary steps, life is going to throw the opportunity at you.
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So I remember they deducted two days out of my salary at work
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due to me being sick, but I did cover those days anyway at the weekend. So,
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and then on top of that, they owed me at least 15 days um uh because I did over
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times or whatever. I I got pissed off and then I just shut the door. So, I’ve
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got you run the mid heaven. So, I just uh shut the door, walked out and then I
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said, “I’m not coming back.” So, I needed a little extra push otherwise maybe I would be still doing both at the
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same time. Wow. Big. Who knows? So, how do you deal that day when you got all these orders? Because I I see this is
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something that, you know, some astrologers may be going through if they get lucky. Um, how do you start
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organizing yourself? like you read the emails and you wrote down the appointments like how do you manage like
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really I miss so many emails at the beginning because um you know the emails
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got forwarded to me and then they kind of got bundled up and then you know you
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just see the last email or whatever and then you click on it and then you cannot see the rest.
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Um so immediately I needed helps uh someone who is going to organize my
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emails and tell me who is the next and so forth. So I quickly got an assistant
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friends of mine. Yes. And then she was doing all these okay let’s go through
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the list. Have you done that reading tick cross? No you have to complete that. Let me email them schedule it for
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you and so on. And then um I just focused on the readings. Awesome. I
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think that that was very smart move because then when you become you know an astrologer I mean like a not an
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astrologer because you were an astrologer for a long time but when you become well known and then you try to
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cover all the you know all the business you know the social media and it’s very
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hard to do it on your own. You definitely I think we need help. You need help an assistant or social media
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manager. How do you organize actually your activities? I I mean I’m assuming you have people helping you at this
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point. Yeah. So I now I only work together with one person but I used to
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work with two. So one was just uh managing social media, the other one was uh managing videos and stuff. Mhm. Uh or
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preparing the slides. So I don’t do any admins because then basically I would be
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just focusing on majority of the times on those little tasks. So I have got
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someone uh uh making the videos, doing social media posts. Uh all I do is let’s
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say I make my weekly forecasts for my members and then this person listens to
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it. Um well it’s usually about one one and a half hour weekly forecast for the general signs and then just gets the
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keywords out of it and then it gets posted with a with um picture basically
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which is relevant to you know to that theme of the day and um all all is
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posted by them and then I just follow up on it. I think that’s really smart. Yeah, because either you teach and you
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know you use your your actual skills or you manage your own business and all the social media part which can be really
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cons like energy consuming. So I think you know if anyone is starting their own
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astrology business I think you should ask for help just like Victor did you know like let’s just hire but you know
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it does cost money so this is not necessarily something that is cheap you know at the beginning so I do get when
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people say that you know they don’t want the help but I usually say that for example a Leo
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a strong Leo person or a strong Aries person uh most of the times they need
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someone to lead Like Leo is a super good um leader, but
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it’s a lousy finisher. They need the employees to kind of like finish off the
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work, you know, or staying on top of it at least.
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So, you know, I mean, some signs might need a bit more support than others. Capricorn probably can do everything on
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their own. And but um you know, I’m a mutable person. I can be all over the place. I need someone who is going to do
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all these type of things for me. Yeah. Yeah. And that’s where the aology comes also when you’re an entrepreneur, you
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know, to to know yourself better and and and see what you actually need, what you don’t need, as you said. I love that.
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So, Victor, can you recall changing uh gears a little bit here? Can you recall a particular fear or a limiting belief
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you had to overcome in your career as an astrologer? And how how did you do it?
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Well, one of them is surely um it’s the knowledge related part. So,
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do I have the knowledge? Wow. Really? Out there. Um I’ve got Chiron in the
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third house. Mhm. Do I struggle with my knowledge? No. I think I’m super
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knowledgeable. Um I think um for me it was always but from a very young age
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from a very young age I have been a teacher basically I was teaching my um uncle how to read and write because he
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had mental health issues. So as soon as I learned how to you know write down
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letter A then I was teaching him how to do letter A. So I’ve been doing this for
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a very long time and then I have always wanted to be a teacher but I guess due
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to early conditioning um you know humiliations in public due
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to mispronouncing something and then the teachers told me that I was stupid and
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so forth or especially when I started uh making my videos people tried to attack
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my accent. Oh, I can’t understand. And then I don’t give a crap now about it
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really. I speak all languages. How many do you speak? So, um you know, um
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I usually say that the best remedy is always facing the problem. So knowing
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that you are afraid of being criticized for your knowledge and for your accent
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or the way you speak and so on, just basically just try not to give a crap about it and get out there. Practice
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makes perfect. So eventually you’re going to overcome your fears. I remember I was shaking like a leaf when I did my
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first video and then when I did my first uh lecturing as well, I was preparing
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for it for hours. Now my all my preparation is just to taking the notes, sending them over, I get them back and
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then I’m ready. Amazing. So um you know I think it’s just about building
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confidence. Great. And for example I know you are
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you still do readings, consultations 101 and that can be emotionally intense and
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how how do you draw the line there? what what practices or or habits help you to
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to keep those energetic boundaries because you’re also Pisces rising, right? Yes. But um
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I never had issues with it to be frank. So when I am doing a client, I’m there
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100%. Uh as soon as I put down the Zoom call,
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I’m gone. I don’t think a client affects me much
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anymore. I I cannot explain this. I maybe it’s my son in Aquarius. I’m emotionally detached.
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Um I don’t think about the problem of the other person anymore. As harsh as it sounds, but I
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think that’s the best what we can do. Otherwise, uh you know, some people are going to be super emotional.
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And yeah, I mean I cannot give practical tips there how to ground yourself because yes, I do know that some people
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get super drained uh from clients problems and so forth.
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And for me it’s I feel them, you know, I kind of like feel sorry for them. But
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what any type of therapist you are or a consult like you do consultations the
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key is that somehow you have to remain emotionally detached. As soon as you get involved you are not giving the best
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course of uh advice. you are going to be somehow
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drawing in your own personal experiences and that’s when you have gone off the
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rail as a as a as a therapist at least that’s how I think so I I don’t get
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involved emotionally with no one’s problems so interesting wow to be frank I think
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what happened was when I lost my grandmother this was a a terrible um emotional loss for me and then it
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took me about 20 years to overcome come some of the mistakes I made and I think
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I closed myself off completely there emotionally
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and maybe that’s what has helped me obviously it means that my
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relationship sucks for sorry for my lang language but that’s the truth like they
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suck and then I never been able to make an emotional connection with uh with
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others I hate it when people hug all type of things. Um, yeah. So,
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obviously, again, it’s a double-edged sword. In one area of your life, it works pretty well. And then the struggle
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is real in another area. Interesting. Well, at least you’re conscious about it, which is actually, I think, what
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matters. And you’re aware of it and I’m sure you’re doing something about it. I mean in your own way but um
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so Victor um you have a significant amount of courses and a very loyal
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community. I think Victor is one of those people in my eyes he deserves million followers. Um and I have and I I
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want to bring or to draw the attention here that the number of followers don’t does not represent you know the amount
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of money you’re going to get because I think this is a mistake. I think Victor because I followed him for years now
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probably doesn’t doesn’t need he’s not where I think he should be but the amount of courses and the knowledge and
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the loyal community you have created is what really matters. So what I want to ask here is what did your first steps
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into digital teaching look like and what surprised you the most? Did you have any
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inconveniences with technology like when you first started teaching? I completely
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agree, by the way. Um, you know, having u, I don’t know, 200,000 followers
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and not being able to kind of like make a living out of it means that maybe
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those people just bought the followers. You know, I am a strong 10th house. I’m
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not going to lie. I compare myself with others and then I look at their statistics and then when I see that
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someone has got 200,000 followers but only 2,000 people watch their video that
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is giving me a story. I might have only um 17,000 followers, but each of my
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videos are watched at least uh six to 10,000 views, which means that most of
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my followers follow my work. And I think that’s more important to kind of like
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create a genuine connection rather than just having the numbers and then potentially you might pop up on the
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YouTube channel more often. That’s my policy. That’s why I don’t like uh I’m
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not taking on paid advertise like collaborations because they reach out to me. I don’t do that cuz that’s not my
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intention. I want to have genuine following clubs. That’s why often I
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don’t do the 12 signs breakdowns either because my intention is not to grab the attention of people who just want to
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know what to expect next week. My intention is to teach people about astrology and to use it for their own
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benefits. So I operate I think slightly bit differently than um others and um
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yeah so I’m yeah potentially I’m never going to hit 100,000 but I don’t care because I make a living out of it. I
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live a comfortable life. I’ve got uh a lot of regular clients. My students I
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know their child by heart you know. But what was your question? Because No,
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actually I want I want to change the question. Maybe I’m going to edit this video. I don’t know. But now that you’re talking about it, um I I wanted to ask
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you um in the beginning when you open your channel and you got probably some harsh comments. Um how did it actually
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impacted you? Because many astrologers don’t talk about it. you know, you don’t see the person behind the screen that
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it’s alo also a human being because we tend to see astrologers as the experts. They should know everything. Oh, how
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stupid. He didn’t mention uh the moon in Pisces, whatever. So, how in the beginning because I know now you have
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overcome that stuff, but in the beginning emotionally, how did it impacted you to read this harsh comments
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on social media? Yeah, I mean the you know this Aries Chiron in Aries transit,
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you know, I cannot wait for this to kind of like finish because Aries is about entitlement and people think that they
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are entitled to say and do whatever they want and you are meant to be getting uh
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you know the stars for I don’t know $1. And um I think we need to grow out of
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this. We need to be looking into the mirror. So what I’m trying to say is that yes people did attack me and then
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it did uh you know impact me a lot and let’s be frank sometimes well definitely
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me with my strong 10th house placements you know I look at the results and then I see let’s say 500 likes and one
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dislike it affects me like why there is one dislike I made a 2hour long video it
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people okay so I’m going to give you a concrete example people expect me to put timestamps on the video and I know you
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do but I I refuse to do that. Uh and one of the reasons is because
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let’s be frank to shoot a video is let’s say a 1 hour video that’s 1 hour
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recording 1 hour preparation and the editing bit can be maybe one two hours
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but to convert the video upload the video that’s additional 7 8 hours for
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sure and then you expect me to do a time stamp as well uh which is going to take
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me additional 1 hour it’s too much work So, so happy you mentioned this and I
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don’t want to overload my uh admin either. Um,
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you know, so and then I think for a viewer it takes maximum 15 seconds where
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their sign is cuz you just pull that little bar and then you see the rising sign on the screen anyway. So, how long
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does it take, right? Uh, and then people attack you for this time stamp. not even
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please or you know it it has to be automatic because people think that their lives needs to be made comfortable
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but I we give you free knowledge we as I said we prepare one video takes minimum
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of 10our work so give a bit of an appreciation that okay I don’t have time
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to do the time stamps and I’m never going to have time for it because I’d rather go to the gym or take my dogs out
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and play with them also I’m a human. I I have got life. Yeah. So, it does bother
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me to be frank, but we just need to remember that uh often people project
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their insecurities onto others. So, and then we just, you know, my boss
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used to say the attack is not against you, it’s against the uniform. So, don’t take it personal. And the same applies
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here as well. It’s not against you. is just something they had a bad day and
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then they project it on to us. I do understand you know timestamps and so forth but I mean I don’t have time for
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it. I’m really sorry. Thank god my students live. I was going to mention that you have such a loyal community
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that the students themselves are actually writing the the timestamps in your videos. I think someone is but you
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know I also see that people are just kind of like go to the top comment of course looking for my pin that time
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stamp and it’s not there so straight away they attack and my reply is um it’s
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in the chat box so just click on it exactly. So, talking about uniforms,
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Victor, when you um made it public or to your friends or family that you were
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going to become an astrologer or even before when you told someone at McDonald’s that you were also an astrologer, what was the reaction and
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and how did it impacted your emotional kind of health? Because I know I think
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what happens is statistically speaking there is about 27%
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of America show interest towards astrology but
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apparently only about six 7% admit it like to friends and family cuz it is
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somehow still a shame to believe in the movement of the stars
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And um the reason why I wanted to mention this is because that was exactly the case with me as well. So if I went
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on a date, someone asked me what your job is, I never told them astrology.
33:37
Wow. I said something else because um you know we we can come across like
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cuckoo or whatever. They use their crystal balls because people often they
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don’t know what esog is. Oh really? I don’t believe in that. uh reading the bloody sunsign in the newspapers. Oh,
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really? You know, but it’s a complex science. So, I never used to share it.
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And then pretty much, to be frank, I got comfortable sharing this with people in the last few years only.
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Um well, if you don’t like it, you don’t like it, move on. But that’s my job.
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Interesting. Yeah. I see many astrologers actually kind of like hiding it for for years only after especially
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now that it’s trendy again let’s say just trendy um then of course I mean oh
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you remember you like astrology in high school can you please I have some friends like can you tell me about my
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moon because my child and blah blah blah and I’m like okay now you want the information but when we were in high
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school you were bullying me you know in a way so it’s interesting how also it has it has changed so Victor Um tell us
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the truth here. Can we live out of like astrology
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like financially? Do you think you know for for aspiring astrologers what would you tell them?
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Because most of us are actually wondering if we can make a living out of it. So can you tell us the truth here?
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Well I live um on astrology. So that’s my full time and
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then I live a very comfortable life. I’m not a millionaire, but
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I yeah, I can afford anything I want. But I do know, you know, I was listening
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to a interview about a few months ago with one of the
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leading names of Slogi and I can’t remember who it was and the person
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cannot live on SLOG so they need to do some other jobs and they were like the
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struggle is re real. I also remember um once um
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uh Donna uh she also wrote an article about this
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that it’s not easy to live on astrology because obviously it’s still kind of
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like a taboo to a certain extent. Mh. Um, but I think sometimes you just need
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to be at the right place at the right time. And obviously you’re going to have to be super dedicated, build your own
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community, be unique about it, have your own unique perspectives, most importantly have the knowledge as well.
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Um the reason being is because um clients are going to spot at one point
36:30
or students that you don’t have the right amount of knowledge or you don’t have the capability of you know
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presenting and so forth and then they’re just going to walk away from you. So I
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think um and then maybe you know like Eric
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what’s his name now? Ericson uh a very uh famous uh psychologist said there is
36:55
no such thing as talent everything takes 10,000 hours to practice and then it
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becomes talent so he saying that you need just dedication and effort and
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eventually you are going to be developing the talent talking about this uh you know as from a financial point of
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view it’s not going to be not everyone is going to be as lucky as I because
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thank god you know from one day to another Slogic gave me uh quite a huge
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amount of money but not many of us will have that opportunity so we just going
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to have to be dedicated and work towards it and maybe sometimes you’re going to have to find a person who is triggering
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your chart positively you know I remember my Jupiter and um uh Uranus
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conjunction uh on the mid heaven is sexile by uh my previous um uh business
37:50
partner uh from the eighth house. So that was a big boost for me anyway, you
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know. So maybe we are not able to do it alone, but astrology can actually help you find
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that person who might be able to boost you somehow and of course it’s a mutual
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support. So you are going to be boosting somehow the other person as well. Yeah, I agree with you. I think also you have
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a very interesting case because I think this is my opinion Victor doesn’t have like one expertise actually Victor has
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like many expertise um he’s teaching evocational and sinistry and you know
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God knows a lot of things at the same time but what what’s your favorite
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branch of of astrology really and why so what’s not my favorite
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relationship astrologies because I’m not good at it I don’t like doing it. It
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doesn’t mean I cannot do a good job with it, but it’s not my favorite. And uh 95%
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of my clients are uh vocational and financial SG that they use or services that they
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use from me. Anyway, so I think in a way, thank God
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cuz I feel like why would I give advice to people about relationship when I’m so
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at it? So you know but it’s not about being good at something you know
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all the therapists are emotional wreckages anyway all of the esogers are
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to a certain extent emotional wreckages also if if I may call ourselves a
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certain type of a therapist so it doesn’t mean that we have to be expert at it but for some reason I don’t like
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um relationship eslogy I like vocational uh money related um uh topics.
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Yeah, those are my favorite ones especially. Um, you were dealing with
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obesity for quite a while and then you use astrology to actually transform your
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body. Can you tell us more about that because this is something that um a reason why I also admire you not only as
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a teacher but as a friend or you know as a person is that you actually walk your
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talk. So can you tell us more about how you did that? What triggered that? I
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want to mention that I don’t live my life by the code of eslogy. Mhm. Meaning that
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let’s say if I pull up a chart, a horrari chart, is this date going to be good or does this relationship any have
40:29
any type of chances? And then if the chart says no, I’m still going to go for that date. I’m still going to give a
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shot to it. So I don’t live by the book of astrology because I do believe in
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free will and I do believe that uh we can all use the highest manifestation of
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each of the planetary combinations and so forth. I don’t care where Saturn transits if I use it well that’s going
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to be just doing a very good job for me. So um however there are um you know like
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I said using the best possible energy of a planet can give you a lot of benefit
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and that’s exactly what I did when Saturn went into my 12th house cuz I call Saturn as the planet of planning.
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Mhm. Meaning that if Saturn is transiting your 12th house, don’t plan
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the 12th house matters. Those are already somehow planted. Plan the first house madam work ahead because Saturn
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rules uh Aquarius which is the sign of future. So therefore focus on the first
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house and 12th house topics at the same time because the reward once Saturn goes
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into the first house you get the reward. So when Saturn went into my 12th house,
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uh I started being afraid of um this obesity question and that basically when
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Saturn goes into my first house potentially I can die or I can have very chronic illnesses. So that was a moment
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when I said you know what I’m just going to lose weight. And then uh obviously I saw that Pluto was going to go into my
42:12
12th house as well. So instead of destroying my, you know, vitality
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because I’ve got the sun in the 12th house, uh, let me just work on it and
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then let’s lose weight basically. So that’s how it all started.
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Um, and obviously there was a personal motivation as well. Um, I could hardly
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walk. I was way too big. 5 minutes walk and I had to sit down for half an hour.
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So obviously that’s unhealthy. So I wanted to change that around and then okay I was like you know what let me use
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some what type of diet suits me when to have the surgery cuz often you know we
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try different types of diets but uh let’s be frank one rule doesn’t fit all
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so that’s where astrology can help you what type of like sport activities to do
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uh you know my sport planet is the sun and it’s in the sign of Aquarius Yes. And I’ve always enjoyed doing um
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um uh team sports related things because psychologically I can compete with them
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and I can be the best over those. I’ve got Mars in the first house. But you
43:27
know you have got Venus in the sign of Aries. Venus is your uh working out planet. Potentially you like working uh
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alone. working out alone and not necessarily in and potentially Venus in the 12th house
43:40
doesn’t want even to be seen. Let me just do it in a quiet. Yes. You know, so
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everyone, you know, and because the problem is that if you start working with 10 people at the same time, you
43:52
might give up quicker because it just doesn’t go with your chart pretty well. But if you’re doing
43:58
alone or you know and then you find something that motivates you maybe Aries in the 12th house gets motivation
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through I don’t know I’m going to put on I don’t know some hardcore music and then that’s going to push me to get
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faster or something like that. But you know that’s very much about the competition with the self rather than
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competing with others. For me it’s competition with others. If somebody is standing next to me running faster than me, I’m going to push up the gear for
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sure cuz I don’t like being the last. So, we are all different and that’s where astrology can help you figure out
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what ways, what type of sport you might enjoy the most and so forth. So, I did
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that and uh obviously I used electionless
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logic to see when to have a surgery and all these type of things. So
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amazing amazing such a journey. So Victor um what would you tell to your
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younger astrologer self today? You know I would start astrology a lot
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earlier. I would I would actually start at the age of like 19 or 20 when you
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know I discovered it uh to kind of push it harder and get the knowledge a lot
45:14
quicker and then basically start the business a lot quicker as well cuz let’s be frank uh that was around the time
45:21
when Slog you know I mean if you think about YouTube you know the first YouTube
45:27
videos came in 2009. Mhm. could have broken into the market a lot quicker and
45:35
so on. But obviously the bravery, the lack of bravery and all those type of
45:40
things. And obviously 2009, you know, it was yesterday. Uh but I was what 25
45:47
years old, 26 years old. So it been an really ideal time to get this going. Now
45:54
the market is too tough. It’s too big. People who have got the slightest little
46:00
knowledge about astrology already put videos out there which obviously is
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dangerous as well as well as you know it has it advantages as well but it’s
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not that easy to break into the market anymore. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to ask you
46:16
about that because now obviously compared to 2009 there are so many people there is so much noise. I mean
46:22
even me as a student I have it took me like two or three years to to choose my astrologers you know to say okay you
46:28
know this person is worth listening to after because in the beginning we’re like I’m like okay I like this one I
46:35
like this one and then using I mean I had to use my intuition and like okay this one I’m going to stick to this one
46:41
right so what would you tell aspiring astrologers because obviously there are many that are want to share also um but
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I think it comes with a huge responsibility Even though if even though it’s free and YouTube is a free platform, but what
46:55
would you tell them really if they want to take this path in the social media?
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Yeah. I mean on one hand don’t take everything for granted you know whatever you find on social media because it’s
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it’s at the end of the day it’s not personalized and your unique map is unique for a reason. Yes.
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Secondly, uh yes, be careful with who you go with
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because unfortunately I do know people out there uh without naming anyone that
47:29
I don’t know they only know how to read transits and they call themselves astrologers and they give advice to
47:35
people and uh you know astrology is really complex you know it’s it’s kind
47:42
of like in a way like being a doctor you know you have to study medicine for six,
47:47
seven years to become a doctor and the same applies to astrology as well. You have to study it for four, five years
47:54
and I do know students who have started their astrological journey a year ago and then they already doing
48:00
consultations. Oh, you know, I mean that’s a bit of a a
48:05
danger there. But um anyway, I mean uh what I would say is that you know I I’ve
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been doing it for 23 years now and uh I learn every single day. I never stop.
48:19
Yes, you’re our walking library. I love the research. I love uh uh looking up
48:26
different people’s opinion and so on. Agree, disagree. It’s all good.
48:32
Um, but this is once you dive into it, you are never going to be comfortable
48:37
because you’re always going to discover something new. Yeah. And that’s about
48:42
it. Yeah. It’s interesting. Go for it. You know, even if it doesn’t become a
48:48
vocation of your own, uh, at the end of the day, the amount of selfdiscovery
48:54
that you’re going to do through it is, um, you know, is just worth it. like
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I’m teaching about Saturn. Um I’ve got this 20 weeks course where
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you know we we are giving specific information about
49:13
what your family ancestry did, why your parents are teaching you in a certain
49:18
way, what they learned from their own grandparents, how that does then get filtered into your life and why certain
49:25
parts of your life is not working. And uh you know I mean if we use it right
49:31
Mhm. then um it’s just such a great tool. I’m going to give an example. You know Saturn goes through the seventh
49:38
house and then straight away we’re going to you know the newbies are going to say oo you know what it’s going to be a
49:43
marriage or a divorce but they forget to look at that maybe Saturn is actually in your second house
49:50
natally which relationship with money. So you’re going to have to re-evaluate
49:55
your relationship based on finances and self-worth. So you might be projecting
50:01
your own selfworth issues onto relationship or simply what is my relationship with money? Why do I need
50:08
to spend a lot of money and then life is going to stop you there. So it’s it’s
50:13
more complex than just Saturn is sitting in your seventh house right now and uh
50:19
many people do not get that. Yeah. I think also is our responsibility to
50:25
question the astrology we listen to and most people don’t do it because you know astrologers should know better any so I
50:34
think um you know as viewers or students I think also it’s a little bit of responsibility to question um or to
50:40
listen to different perspectives until you find you know the perspective that you know um
50:47
resonates thank you yes yeah yeah that person needs to be somehow
50:54
resonating with you and some will and some won’t and that’s okay you know that’s the person you need to kind of
50:59
learn from or and I al always say that even if you have a very shitty reading with someone they had at least one
51:07
sentence there which was super important you know so because you were drawn to that person for a reason right uh and
51:15
maybe all we had to learn was that I got scammed but you learned something on that day
51:22
Yeah, interesting. And um there are only two questions. One is what’s one thing
51:28
you wish more people understood about the life of a professional astrologer behind the scenes?
51:35
Yeah. So as I said earlier, I think it gets forgotten that we are also humans
51:41
and I think it gets forgotten that you know as always just about making
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like letting you know that tomorrow you’re going to meet a guy who has got blue eyes and blonde hair because there
51:55
are clients who expect you to do such thing. uh but astrology is
52:03
in a way telling you that and this is now how I build up my weekly forecasts.
52:09
So for example, next week we have got
52:16
Mercury entering the sign of Cancer straightaway squaring
52:21
Saturn. Once it’s finished the square with Saturn, it runs into Neptune and
52:26
then uh once it finished with Neptune, it makes a sexile to Venus. So basically
52:32
Mercury is building up a story here and because the first point of contact is Saturn. So positively speaking, we can
52:40
use that for mental clarity. We can use that for
52:46
um like seeing things through when it comes to our emotions and actions. If we
52:52
do that and we have got the courage Saturn in Aries to speak up about our
52:58
emotional vulnerability, Mercury Cancer, then it leads to a healing and that’s
53:04
Neptune. uh and being able to trans like do that
53:09
transcendent type of cleansing.
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Now, Mercury and Saturn can talk to us about the lack of courage to speak up as well. So, if I don’t speak up, it leads
53:21
to a uh miscommunication, misunderstandings,
53:28
grief and sorrow. That’s the negative manifestation of Neptune. So astrology
53:33
is brilliant to tell you that listen, you can use the higher vibration this way or you can use it the other way.
53:40
Which one you want to go with? One is going to lead to this and the other one is going to lead to that.
53:46
And I think if we start using logic this way rather than oh yeah you know what
53:52
tomorrow because it’s a square with Saturn you know tomorrow you’re going to be depressed
53:57
then the message that I’m giving to the client is to become depressed and they’re going to become depressed and
54:04
then with Neptune we’re going to cry and so forth rather than why don’t we give
54:09
the option that you can use this to create mental clarity and think through why you are not brave enough to initiate
54:16
something new in your life which is often of course a fear and uh you know a
54:22
discomfort uh I mean just think about for example
54:28
Virgo rising sign is in the eighth house Mercury will be in the 11th house so
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11th house long-term goals eighth house is fear of uh losing control financial
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problems and so forth so if I’m able to kind of come up with a plan and and
54:45
establishing somehow my own mental blockages around money and standing up
54:52
in a crowd and then telling people my opinion rather than kind of suppressing it which the eighth house often does
55:00
then it all leads to some neptunian moments basically a lot of healing
55:06
but yeah so all I’m saying is that we can really use this to help others
55:12
rather than dragging them down. Yeah. Or giving them Satan goes to the seventh house. I’m not going to tell people that
55:18
you’re going to break up tomorrow. What I’m going to tell them is that listen, Saturn want you to go back to basics and
55:25
rebuild the entire relationship on a new foundation. If you don’t do that, chaos
55:30
is going to come. If you do that, you guys are going to mutually support each other. Often it’s the easier job to just
55:37
get out of the relationship because Saturn wants you to roll up the sleeves and work hard. And that sounds really
55:44
tough and I might feel like that I’ve been working on this relationship for 10 years and it’s not working. So, I don’t
55:51
wish to work any longer and I get that. Um,
55:57
but the choice is yours. It’s it’s yours. I’m not saying it’s fully yours,
56:04
but it’s yours. But you can choose which road to go down on. And often the outcome is going to be the same anyway.
56:11
And often you can alter things. Yeah. Interesting. Now, even headlines like,
56:17
you know, that the titles of videos are in the astrology war are so apocalyptic. You know, some some I mean, I’m I’ve
56:24
been watching for a long time and and I just see how now everything has shifted
56:30
to this like bad scenario. So you click on that video and I I don’t think that’s the place where you know we should be
56:37
doing astrology but everyone is free to decide. Yeah, it’s a clickbait because
56:42
you know the other thing that I would like the viewers to do and I know we all have got limited times but one of the
56:49
reasons why people do this clickbait or people um I mean basically the
56:57
motivation is that you view their videos because YouTube is going to pay you more
57:02
and basically they’re going to put it you know at a good place so that people can find it. That’s the whole reason why
57:10
we do that and I think all of us are trying to do that to a certain extent of course cuz at the end of the day we live
57:16
in a bloody material world and we need money to we need money. Yeah. So this is
57:22
also one of the reasons why I don’t necessarily do this uh 12 sign breakdowns cuz or the timestamps because
57:29
people just going to click on that. Yeah. And then get out. made a tremendous amount of uh work to actually
57:36
explain you to the the process and the amount of times people actually ask me
57:42
questions like oh you mentioned in in your u you know breakdown that I don’t
57:48
know Demet is doing this and that in the chart can you tell me what deer is and
57:54
then I explained that in the first one hour of the video so clearly shows that it wasn’t listened to and I got it we
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don’t have the time and so forth I I completely get it and I’m not asking you to watch the the entire video through.
58:07
I’m just telling you that this is the reason why people put those clickbaits on and so on. Um yeah, because that’s
58:15
what catches our attention now. Yeah, unfortunately. And finally, Victor, um
58:21
what current or upcoming trends uh are you finding more inspiring today? It can
58:28
be collective or personal, but just to end up in on a high note. So, is there any upcoming transit that you’re excited
58:35
about and why? Well, of course, we do have got 2025 is
58:42
big. I mean, Jupiter is shifting into Cancer. Uranus is ready to move into
58:47
Gemini. Saturn Neptune has transitioned already. We’ve got a lot of uh big uh
58:54
changes going on. But this decade is about the big changes. Anyway, I’m kind of um looking forward to the Saturn and
59:03
Jupiter square. Mhm. Uh on a personal as
59:08
well as on a mundane level because with Jupiter and Saturn we
59:13
planted the seeds in the sign of Aquarius. So we started doing something there and then now it gets questioned.
59:21
uh now it’s the realization that what we did around that time might not be working anymore and we need the renewal
59:29
and there’s Saturn in the sign of Aries and this is a longer process but
59:35
hopefully you know one of the positive combination of that is that basically there is going to be peace talks I mean
59:42
um and then the very negative manifestation of that is that it’s not peace talk it’s actually war talks you
59:49
know so Uh but um let’s hope you know that people will wake up. Obviously the
59:56
initial um you know Jupiter and Saturn um conjunction in the sign of Aries
1:00:03
wanted these technological advancements and so forth and which we started and
1:00:08
hopefully we’re going to see that let’s say AI is not as good as we want it to
1:00:14
be like maybe we are just realizing that we are not fully ready for it but
1:00:19
obviously Uranus in Gemini will push it very much to get AI widespread So
1:00:28
uh but I think there is going to be ethical questions around AI and um and I
1:00:34
think we are not fully ready for AI yet. Yeah, let’s see. Thank you Victor so
1:00:40
much. Uh anything you have coming up? What are you doing these days? Where can we find you? Any classes? New books?
1:00:47
What are you No new books at the moment. I’m uh I’m focusing now on
1:00:53
um on the vocational course and the Saturn course and the next course I’m going to be doing is the human games in
1:01:02
the signs. So how each game how each sign is
1:01:08
playing psychological games ships and so on. So I will be doing a
1:01:14
course um in about seven eight so in starting in about two month time
1:01:21
interesting because that might be a very good way to see the psychological tricks of each
1:01:27
sign what they do in the pickle or how they want to get
1:01:33
out of it. So I’m planning to do one like that. So interesting Victor thank you so much. Uh no retreats now this
1:01:40
year. I’ve been to one of your retreats and I’m just asking if you No, not for now. Not for now. Okay. Maybe the
1:01:48
future. Thank you so much, Victor. I will leave all his information in the description below in case you want to
1:01:54
visit his website, his amazing courses, his membership also and upcoming uh webinars and courses. Thank you so much,
1:02:01
Victor. And I mean, you know how much I admire you. So, I hope to have you back
1:02:06
here talk about other things also. So, good luck and thank you. Thank you very
1:02:11
much. I really enjoy chatting with you. Bye everyone. Bye.
