Suzy Woo

Astrology healing, trauma-informed astrology, psychic medium, light language, energy healing.

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Suzy Woo (Virgo Sun and Moon, Scorpio Rising), is a New York–based astrologer and multi-modality spiritual practitioner who describes her work as consciousness medicine—an integrative approach weaving astrology, trauma-informed insight, energy healing, mediumship, sound (gongs/tuning forks), and ā€œlight language.ā€

In this episode, Suzy shares that astrology was her first love, and the tool she returned to when she needed to understand family dynamics, attachment patterns, and the deeper ā€œwhyā€ behind her life experiences. From there, her path expanded into spiritual development, teaching, retreats, and client work centered around empowerment, boundaries, and self-trust.

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Pain into Power: The Story of Suzy Woo | Backstage Astrology Interview

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Episode Summary

Suzy Woo shares her ā€œwhyā€: a long journey of surviving a harmful relationship and the awakening that followed—especially the moment she realized she had to choose life, safety, and selfhood for herself and her children.

From there, she explains how astrology became both a map and a mirror: a way to understand patterns, attachment styles, and the difference between living a chart’s shadow expression versus its evolved expression. The conversation expands into spiritual development—energy healing, mediumship, sound tools, light language—and the real-world boundaries required to do healing work sustainably.

***Note (health & safety): This episode includes discussion of domestic violence (non-graphic). It also contains personal stories and spiritual/holistic claims; it’s not medical advice or a substitute for professional care.

Who This Episode Is For

This episode is for you if:

– You’ve ever asked, ā€œWhy did this happen to me?ā€ and felt called to make meaning from pain.

– You’re an empath/caregiver who struggles with boundaries, burnout, or emotional overload.

– You’re curious about mediumship, intuition, clairaudience, and how to tell fear-thoughts from guidance.

– You’re an astrologer (or student) who wants a real conversation about trauma, healing, and integrity.

– You’re rebuilding your identity after a difficult chapter—and need hope rooted in truth.

Astrological Approach

Suzy’s approach is intuitive, practical, and timing-aware. Key elements include:

  • ā€œHigh road vs low roadā€ astrology: choosing how to express planetary archetypes consciously.

  • Trauma signatures: she pays close attention to Scorpio/8th house themes and what ā€œjumps outā€ in a chart.

  • Integrative reading style: chart interpretation blended with intuitive impressions (ā€œripple of truthā€) and healing guidance.

  • Empaths + boundaries lens: how water emphasis and sensitive placements can correlate with porous boundaries—and how to rebuild them.

Fun Fact

Suzy calls herself ā€œthe Pied Piper of Positive.ā€ And she has a very Virgo side: she loves evidence, testing, and systems—she even describes ā€œpulling up someone’s energy like an IP addressā€ when working remotely.

Journey as an Astrologer

A lived-initiation path:

  • Astrology first: a childhood pull toward the stars that later became a lifeline.

  • Meaning-making after trauma: returning to charts to understand dynamics and reclaim agency.

  • Training + expansion: trauma-informed learning, psychology influences, and energetic modalities.

  • From skeptic to practitioner: testing, witnessing experiences, and learning discernment.

  • From overgiving to mastery: learning boundaries the hard way—then teaching them with clarity.

  • Teacher’s path: retreats, courses, circles, and an emphasis on helping people reconnect to self-worth and inner guidance.

Key Themes & Topics

  • Pain into purpose: turning survival into service.

  • Astrology as a sacred language (and a mirror for identity + timing).

  • Empaths & water dominance: boundaries, absorption, overload.

  • Discernment: intuition vs mind-noise vs spirit signals.

  • Clairaudience (ā€œhearingā€) and tracking patterns over time.

  • ā€œGet out of the way and trust what you’re gettingā€.

  • The healer’s lesson: you’re the faucet, not the water.

  • Boundaries as spiritual hygiene (and business hygiene).

  • Self-worth, heart-led work, and building a grounded vessel.

  • Retreat work, community healing, and ongoing offerings.

Quotes

  • ā€œAstrology. My love has always been astrology since I was a little girl.ā€

  • ā€œLight language is a language of the soul.ā€

  • ā€œYou are the faucet. You’re never the water.ā€

Resources & Books Mentioned

Mentioned / implied in the conversation:

  • Carl Jung (Jungian psychology / symbolic work).

  • Practices/tools discussed: gongs, tuning forks, Reiki (as a reference point), Akashic records, regression/past-life work, light language.

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Listener Takeaways

What I learned from Suzy:

  • Healing isn’t just ā€œspiritual.ā€ It’s logistical. It’s boundaries, structure, and self-respect. The way she talked about protecting her nervous system (and her life) reminded me that devotion without boundaries becomes self-abandonment.
  • This impacted me deeply: astrology can be the bridge back to yourself when life has erased your identity. Suzy didn’t use astrology to escape reality — she used it to name the pattern, understand the dynamic, and finally choose a different future.

  • A line I’m still thinking about: ā€œYou’re the faucet, not the water.ā€ That reframed the whole ā€œhealerā€ conversation for me. If your work leaves you depleted all the time, something is off — not because you’re not gifted, but because the channel isn’t clean and the boundaries aren’t enforced.

  • Suzy made me reflect on sensitivity in a new way: being an empath isn’t a personality badge. It’s a responsibility. If you’re porous, you need practices. Her simple question — ā€œIs this mine?ā€ — is honestly one of the most practical spiritual tools I’ve heard in a long time.

  • The bigger message I took from this episode: you don’t have to be fearless to evolve. You just have to be willing to tell the truth, stop negotiating with your own worth, and take one brave step at a time — even when you’re shaking.

  • And on a human level: I felt inspired by how she holds her story now — not as a wound she performs, but as a lived initiation. She turned survival into service without glamorizing it… and that’s rare.

Transcript

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Um, I’ve gone through 22 years of really intense domestic violence. And so that is actually my why. I just want to

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prevent other people from falling into the pit that I did. What actually was

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the catalyst was our daughter who was 16 at the time. I can’t take living like this anymore. You got to do something

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about this. It’s him or me. I’m going to give you permission to call 911 emergency services, but not until I give

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you a cue. cuz as a Scorpio rising, I don’t trust anybody or anything. That

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happened within two weeks. And and the police had come and I had bright red handprints on my throat. I had blood on

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my shirt and they said, “Come on, you’re coming with us.” And then that was the final the final final. Really, the most

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terrifying thing was realizing that my kids didn’t know who I was. Well, I have

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Neptune and Scorpio in my first house. So, it’s funny that I have no air in my chart cuz clearly I can talk.

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I don’t have any tact. I have chosen to evolve from that and grow and then set

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an example for others. You’re doing aashic records. You’re doing mediumship, psychic mediumship,

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energy healing, regression. Which one was the first one?

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Astrology. Light language is a language of the soul.

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If you have water in your chart, you’re an empath. And people who have a lot of water in their chart or a lot of uh

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busyiness in their water houses don’t have healthy boundaries. How do I know if I am an empath? You feel everybody

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else’s stuff. You know, sometimes I I’m going to be honest. Sometimes I hear voices like

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voices. No, but I don’t know if it’s my second brain. I don’t know if it’s my intuition. I don’t know if there’s

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actually my grandma telling me something like how do we know like if it’s real

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which also weaves in with the whole empath thing too. So the sensitivity hearing voices is uh clear audience.

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What I pick up is you have a lot of air and you have a lot of these question marks over above the back of your head.

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Yes, I have three planets in Aquarius. I have Chiron in Gemini. Um,

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oh my gosh, there it is. I am impressed by how you can pick up on things even through the screen.

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Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz energy doesn’t lie. Get out of the way and trust what

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you’re getting. Yes, we are working on that here.

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[Music]

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Welcome back to another backstage astrology episode. My name is Mario Medina and I am thrilled to be here with

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Susie Woo. Susie, how are you today? Thanks for being here. I’m wonderful. Wonderful. At the end of

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summer here in New York. You’re in New York. I’m so happy you’re here with us because let me tell you guys, Susy, she’s doing a lot of things.

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She’s doing astrology. She’s doing consciousness medicine. She’s also a

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medium. She’s also um healing with sound. So, she’s combining a lot of like

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all of these spiritual healing things. I wanted to ask you, sorry, how do you want people to know you really?

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Well, uh my moniker is the pipe piper of positive.

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And so after myself going through um I’ve gone through 22 years of really

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intense domestic violence. And so that is actually my why. And um after

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figuring out kind of like well actually that’s what put me back into astrology is I was saying you know what why did

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this happen? And I wanted to understand family dynamics and and I and I looked

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at our charts and learned how to read and um then I tripped upon the terms

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narcissist and empath and that seemed to really fit the bill well.

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And so I I pursued trauma informed training and weaving in um the psych

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psychology facet of things and that’s why I’m a behavior specialist. Um, but

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energy medicine is the the the the common denominator of everything that I do. And so it’s consciousness medicine.

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People who are not evolved in this lifetime are going to react from the shadow side of the various planets. I

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kind of call it like the low road expression and the high road expression. And you have that option with all of the

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planets in in your chart, whether you live up to it or whether you do not

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evolve. And um so coming up through all of that

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and deciding how I wanted to, you know, put myself out there because really I

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just want to prevent other people from falling into the pit that I did. And to

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do that is to know who you are. What is your attraction style, attachment style?

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And it’s really about plugging in to who you are. And the thing is, most people

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don’t know who they are because that was fed to them. Your family trains you. This is how we behave. This is how we

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treat one another. This is how we eat together or not. This is how we treat our neighbors. And so all of that is

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very much programmed into who we are. And then when we we get to around 20

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into our 20s and we have our first Saturn return and we may realize we’re way down this road. were going to

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college for dental school because my parents paid for it, but I wanted to go play saxophone. And so we have this huge

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wakeup call and we realize, you know, my friends are marrying off and buying houses. I still don’t know what I want

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to do and I’m stuck in this dental school that I hate. And it really causes discord. That’s when we either will

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resort to things like escapism and drugs and and behaviors that are not supportive or we do something about it

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and we learn how to stand in our power and say, “You know what, Mom and Dad? I’m really sorry you spent all this

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money. It just doesn’t resonate with me and and I’m very unhappy.” But it

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doesn’t roll off as simply as that. Wow. What a story, Susie. So interesting. So you were mentioning it

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took you 22 years. When did you realize you were being you know in this situation?

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When did you realize that? I entered into this relationship at 16. So this was a I was a kid.

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And so 22 years later and three breakups and coming back and all of that garbage.

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Um what actually was the catalyst was our daughter who was 16 at the time. And one hectic Thursday morning, I think it

Starting Over: Healing with Astrology & the Path to Self

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was, she pulled me aside and she said, “I can’t take living like this anymore. You got to do something about this. It’s

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him or me.” Oh my god. So, I couldn’t let my baby girl run out into the world

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cuz she was going to run away. And I I And everything was getting much more intense. Everything was getting really,

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really bad. And uh I said, “Well, okay. I I hear you. I know I need

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to do something. I’m I’m shaking.” And uh but I said my biggest fear was that

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cuz we I’ve never involved the law before. Um and if if they had shown up,

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I would have denied everything anyways out of fear. And so what I said to her

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is, “Okay, I’m going to give you permission to call 911 emergency services, but not until I give you a

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cue.” um because I was afraid what if they showed up and there was no evidence or he knew the law enforcement and so um

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that happened within two weeks and and the police had come and I had bright red

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handprints on my throat. I had blood on my shirt and they said, “Come on, you’re coming with us.” And then that was the

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final the final final. And then um my three our three children um and I we

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started life all over again from from scratch. We moved um you know we slept

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for two weeks PTSD and um really the most terrifying thing

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was realizing that my kids didn’t know who I was. Um you know I was pretty much a doormat

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and I was never able to be my own character. But then what was even more scary is I didn’t know who I was.

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Oh that was bad. That was bad. recognizing I’ve just been kind of this

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marionette. Well, I have Neptune and Scorpio in my first house. I was going to ask, you know, what’s

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your sun, moon, and rising? And I need to ask you because you’re a healer. Where is your Chiron, too? If you want

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to share that with us so people get the vibe. Yeah, my Chiron’s in the fifth. So is

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Saturn and Aries. Both of those in Aries. And I’m a Scorpio rising with a Taurus moon

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and a Leo sun. conjunct regul when it was still 28 Leo.

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So Wow. Interestingly, my Leo degree is 22

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which is kill or be killed. Uhhuh. Oh wow. And um I have chosen to evolve from that

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and grow and then set an example for others rather than either killing or being

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killed. Some Well, it’s just so wonderful how you tell us the story now, you know, like

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you know, laughing and just like maybe other people are in this situation and to hear you tell the story like that is

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is such an inspiration of like saying that there is a way out of these kind of

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situations. So in that process of like rediscovering who you were, uh how did

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you get into the spiritual world like which one? Because I also know you were doing Akashic records. You were doing

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mediumship, psychic mediumship, energy healing, regression. Which one was the first one?

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Astrology. My love has always been astrology since I was a little girl. And

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when I would go to the drugstore with my grandma or whatever, they used to have the little colored scrolls at the

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checkout and it would say the numbers for the month and the astrology. I always got those. I collected them. I

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knew there was something to it when I was I think nine or something years old. I had a dream that I had gone outside

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with my mom at the night time and we looked up and that the planets were labeled with little popsicle sticks and

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labels and I remember seeing Jupiter. Well, I was born on a Thursday which is Jupiter. Jupiter.

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Jupiter love Jupiter. And um and so I kind of I I I could still envision that

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dream and I know that the stars communicate because now I I channel the energies of those planets. So starting

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with astrology and then weaving that in with the family dynamics and the why

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that led me to psychology and then that led me of course to Carl Young and so young yian astrology

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um and timing and all that kind of thing and and then that led to uh energy

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healing which I wasn’t exactly buying and um cuz as a Scorpio rising I don’t

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trust anybody or anything and I says uh okay so I don’t and if Google it, it

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says it’s some kind of a pseudocience. And so I’m like, “All right, I need to I need to know this is real.” And so I

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found the most recommended Reiki person in town. And I went and I laid my money down and I’m like, “Raiky me.” And I am

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laying there. And for a half an hour, my experience was just hearing.

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So I couldn’t relax because this person is just breathing deeply and it was

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bothering me. I couldn’t relax at all. And so I didn’t feel anything and I’m like, “Yeah, I

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knew it was nothing.” But then I went home and I started hammering on the keyboard because I’m still looking. I

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know there’s something and what is it? Uhhuh. Then I found um Jerry Sergeant and he’s

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a an English man who has Star Magic Healing and I brought him to New York

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and he did his workshop here. He came on my television show I had at the time and

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I was sold and so I took his training. He was doing a training in Sedona and but in front of my eyes I watch

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somebody’s spine move. So now I’m a belie because that was a

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student I’m a student and we’re working on each other under his and this stuff is happening and so now and that just

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began everything and then I left my at the time I had a job at the IRS.

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So not fun, not creative. It was horrible. I hated it, but it paid the

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bills. And so that is, you know, kind of your Saturn, right? And I used to hate Saturn

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because don’t tell me what to do, right? But now I have a yacht to my Saturn. And

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so now I’ve come to realize Saturn is selfmastery.

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And so I don’t hate Saturn and I like it. I like it now. And I have five planets in Virgo up in my 10th house.

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I’ve got Mercury conjunct my mid heaven at one degree of Virgo. So, I’ve always loved creative writing and it’s just my

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jam. So, I like I’ve done like a I had a media company for a while and I

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interviewed musicians and oh, I’ve done so many cool things and uh one thing just led to another.

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So, I I went into tarot. So, I also do tarot readings and oracle cards and

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astrology. But then with the energy healing, I started getting other information and people in my circles,

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they’re like, “You’re a medium.” I’m like, “No, I’m not. No, I’m not.” I I just didn’t trust

Skeptic to Believer: Energy Healing, Mediumship & First Miracles

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and um I hadn’t had any formal mediumship training, but the messages that I was getting, I started to test

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them and the response was like, “Oh my god, that’s what my mother used to say.”

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And so enough had happened that I started to trust that and now I

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implement that too. So it’s kind of like, well, what else is there? this isn’t our first rodeo and this whole

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past life thing cuz I wasn’t buying that either, right? But then there’s these Well, actually,

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what had happened is I I did a retreat. I was a participant, a contributor at a retreat in Sedona and a

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woman before me played the gongs and she remembers her

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Lamuran lifetimes and she spoke light language

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into these gongs and I had that experience and I was just blown into other dimensions. And somebody else who

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attended said they looked at me and they saw me turn into like an Egyptian goddess or something. Crazy things.

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Crazy things. And I’m like, “Oh my god.” So that got me on the gong path because I play Gongs. And that that is

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mind-blowing. And then the very last thing that showed up is my light language. I wanted to

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speak light language. And every time I tried, I would weep. I don’t know why. I

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I’ve paid people, taken classes, and done all these little and nothing. And

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it would be like my turn. And all that happened. my my lips starts quivering and tears start coming down and I’m

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clueless like I don’t know what’s going on. Come to find out the planet that I was on kind of detonated and and so it

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hurt too much to go back and speak of like home I guess. So over the past year

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actually last summer I was staying with two 40 years in um Colorado at 9,000 ft

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altitude and their home is built into the side of this mountain. Uhhuh. And so, um, it was the summer

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solstice and they invited me to do a thing there. And so, I set up the, uh, copper pyramid and I was creating a grid

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under the pyramid and I sat under the pyramid and all this stuff starts coming out of me. And when I finish and I’m

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crying and all this information about the the universe and the the the the

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presentation of Saturn and what they didn’t say is this black box is actually on a 45 degree angle and all this crazy

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stuff. So I finish I open my eyes and these two teachers they’re looking at me their mouths are hanging open and they

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start pulling some books off the shelf and they’re like this is what you just told us. Oh my god. Oh my god. So, ever since

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then, um, I I I use light language and I I So, all of this stuff are things that

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I offer because I know that they’re real through my own experience. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

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I teach everything I know. Yeah. Can you actually explain? Maybe people don’t know what is light language. Maybe some of them don’t know.

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So, can you tell us more? Yes. Light language is a language of the soul. It’s not like French or Hungarian.

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It’s not cat A cat. It is an energetic transmission that comes through you as a

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channel or a vessel and it brings forth uh I’m going to call them light codes.

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They’re um energetic packets of photon energy that have a high degree of

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intelligence in them. And when it is transmitted through the person or

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whoever’s present on the other side receiving um it feels that emission. And so I have

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to close my eyes because I’m actually getting the information because otherwise my brain might throw out question marks. And so as a small

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example, I invite you and the participants here

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to bring your awareness from up here down into your own heart energy or your heart chakra

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and just park there for a second. And you’re not going to look for anything or expect anything.

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[Music]

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Okay. And so what that transmits is have a stronger feeling of

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self-worth. You don’t need the external validation. Be here now. Allow yourself

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to be more present and a grand grand light.

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wave or force. It almost feels like a second sun um is trying to illuminate

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um you the individual and and it reminds me of when we have Zoom, we need to

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install the Zoom client. Well, our client has been

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dormant. And so what we’re going through currently is that client in us is trying

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to open up, but it’s making us feel very uncomfortable or squeamish or like our

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nervous system is shortcircuiting. And so it is uh not to be alarmed to relax into it and open up to this cosmic

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wisdom that is trying to speak to us. Beautiful. Beautiful. Wow, that was

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really cool. Thank you for that. And wow. Okay, let me come back in a

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way. Okay, so um in all this in this journey

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you had um how do you manage to to set

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boundaries with your clients because it’s energy in the end and you know we cannot measure it, we cannot touch it,

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we don’t know if it’s ours or not. So how do you in your practices for example I know you do retreats this is kind of

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like your specialty in New York. Yes, you’re doing retreats all over New York. I’m really jealous. People in New York,

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please, if you if you can go to one of these and and you do all these retreats

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and you mix all of these um specialties you have and I’m sure it’s it should be such an experience because you are, you

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know, guiding people, you talk the language, but how do you take care of your own self?

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It’s a great question. Uh through a lot of trial and error. When I first

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started, I didn’t have those healthy boundaries and I wanted to help everybody and I needed to realize I

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can’t and I would offer my services for free. Okay? So, you can’t do barters

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with the electric company. Okay? Right? You can’t do that. So, you can have the

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biggest heart and the best intentions, but it’s not going to work at the end of the day. Um, when I did that, I would get people

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who would show up on drugs or being drinking or not show up at all. And so

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that helped me to understand not to do that because these are not people qualified who are ready for you. And um

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then uh the other thing was making myself too available. And once I did

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like an energy healing or a consultation, I’d be like, “Oh, you got me in your back pocket. Let me know anytime.” No, no, no, no. That was bad

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because people would then take advantage of that. Oh, I had this dream. What does that mean? Or I saw a butterfly. What

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does that mean? And it was just way overwhelming or crisis situation. I had

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uh un deactivated I’m going to call it black magic on a child. And um so I do

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the thing, everything’s done. It’s 7:00 in the evening. I And they text me,

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they’re acting like this again. Well, okay. I have a sweet I’m a Leo. I have a sweet spot for children. And um and I

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text back, you know, I’m not an emergency service. I can’t I can’t it’s

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not fair to my own family. Um and I asked I said what changed between our

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appointment and now? Oh well my my boyfriend put his magic on him. Don’t

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don’t. Anyways and so that happened so much that I needed to change my phone

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number and now I use an office landline. That’s where all the calls go.

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Um it’s I monitor it when I go into the office which is four days a week.

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Um, I I now only am I’m only accessible via email because then I could look at

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it when I’m good and ready, right? I have all my notifications turned off and so I never am interrupted. Like even

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my friends don’t have my new number because it’s too disruptive for me to get 75

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happy mother’s day text messages or you know see the kindest goodest and

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best intentions. I don’t want it. You know, it’s not to be cold, but these are

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my boundaries. I’ve now moved. I live on a 105 acres in in in Amish country. I

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cows as neighbors. And this is peace. This is beautiful. And I’m not any

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longer willing to allow that to be disrupted. Interesting. Yeah. Setting boundaries and understand that the business also

23:06

needs its own boundaries. No. And the other thing is you end up taking stuff. you take their issues home with

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you because a lot of people, you know, if you have water in your chart, you’re an empath. Um, you know, as a Scorpio rising, well,

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with a sweet spot for children, you know, I would replay the issues and feel bad and how else can I help them, but it

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was too draining and I just needed to set that boundary and then enforce it.

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Every now and then, I will get a person who just keeps on emailing me all the time and I’m like, I’m not available in

23:39

between sessions. you save up your questions and you book a session. As hard as that is for me to do because I

23:45

really do care a lot, but at the same time, if I can’t show up for myself,

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I’m not going to be that good for you or anybody else. Totally. Totally agree with that.

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Interesting. So, recently, I know you did a retreat for empaths. I know because I, you know, we did something,

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but the point is I was really curious and I’m going to ask you because I wanted to go there. I don’t know if I’m

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an empath. I I have some water in the chart, but this was for people that are

24:15

always giving giving and it was like directed to like nurses or or people that take care of other people. So, I

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really wanted to go. I’m curious what what the experience is like. Can you tell us why you what you teach us? What

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what we were supposed to do there in that retreat? Why only for empaths? You know, tell us

24:34

more about this retreats. Okay. And so for empaths and people who have a lot of water in

24:41

their chart or a lot of uh busyiness in their water houses. Uhhuh.

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Water has no form. It takes the form of what you pour it into. And most people who have a lot of water

24:55

don’t have healthy boundaries. And so they’re going to take on this is what I compare it to. You wake up in the

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morning and you’re like a clean dryer vent and you start your day and there people driving next to you. They’re

25:06

fighting and but you get to work and this that and the other thing and now there’s all these flying towels all over the place and now you can’t breathe

25:13

because all the lint from your environment feels that it’s suffocating. And so one of the big things is when you

25:19

if you suddenly feel out of character, if you’re suddenly angry or you’re suddenly depressed or edgy and you don’t

25:25

know why, that you must stop and put your hands on your heart and say, “Is this mine?” And nine times out of 10,

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it’s not. And then you release it because nothing happened to make me feel edgy. I don’t know what this is. And

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that’s why you need to do that. It’s just check in with yourself for a moment. The heart never lies. The brain

25:45

protects you. So it might tell some untruths um for survival. So it’s always putting your hands on the heart

25:52

and just saying is this mine and you will know immediately before your mind has a chance to check in and start blah

25:59

blah blah blah blah. So that’s one of the things and another thing is that you

26:05

must learn to practice self-care. There is nothing more important than self-care. Because if you’re only

26:11

running on fumes, which most caregivers are then you can’t show up for yourself. How

26:17

can you give from an empty cup? Right. Right. You got to take you’ve got to have rest.

26:24

You have to have nutrition. Like there’s certain it sounds really obvious, but

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when you’re a caregiver, that’s really it’s what you do. And we

26:34

do a lot of times people who are in this as a profession actually shouldn’t be.

26:40

They’re doing the right things for the right reasons, but it’s draining them and it’s leading to burnout. And I have

26:45

a lot of clients that are in the healthcare industry and since 2020 everything turned on its head. Now a lot

26:51

of these nurses, they’re saying, “I can’t do this anymore. It’s actually making them feel ill and they’re leaving

26:58

those jobs.” And so through the trainings that I offer because what goes down has to come back up. They’re coming

27:04

back up in the holistic industry which is not you know uh uh which is which is

27:12

not part of that system of limitations and you can’t say this or you can’t do that right

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because you genuinely care. And that’s a lot of money down the drain for doing what somebody felt was the

27:24

right thing because people who get into that, they want to help people. That’s great. But in a system that doesn’t

27:32

support that, it actually makes one feel dissonant. There’s a dissonance

27:38

there. And over a period of time, it’s going to set up illness and burnout and fatigue and all that kind of stuff.

27:44

That’s real stuff. So, it’s learning how to stand in your power and saying, you know what, I have to say no today or I

27:50

need a down day. I need Oh, moon need. What are your needs? Are those needs

27:56

being met? It’s mandatory because you can’t help anybody if you’re laying on

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the floor passed out or fatigued. Yeah. Actually, I I should have asked

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you before maybe, but how do I know if I am an empath?

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You feel everybody else’s stuff. you go to you you don’t feel good around

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crowds um because it’s too much energy flying around. You suddenly change your mood and you

28:24

don’t know where that came from. Somebody tells you a story and you really have a hard time unseeing it or

28:30

unhearing it. Um I’ve just grown more and more sensitive doing this work. My Scorpio

28:37

wants to know. It’s like you know bad things happen. I’m like oh I want to read that story. And now it’s like, “Oh,

28:43

I’m so sorry I did that because I’m seeing that flashback before I go to sleep at night and I can’t shake it.”

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You know, things like elder abuse, child abuse, you know, any of the, you know, animals, any of that stuff. No, I don’t

28:56

need to see it. And so, you have to satiate uh or or or balance, rectify,

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um if I do this, it’s going to have an impact. And so if you are empathic, it’s

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you’re feeling into other people’s emotional state and their psychological

29:14

state, which are definitely interwoven if somebody even back in childhood like

29:19

in um your earliest social setting. So it might be grammar school and you just

29:25

wanted to help everybody. Like I remember I remember canned goods like

29:31

when we were in school and they do the canned good drive. Well, I I brought can I I took it out of the cabinet without

29:37

asking. I took a whole bunch of it and I I stole a piece of jewelry from my

29:42

sister and I gave it to this girl that everybody used to pick on in school and I wrote notes as her secret admirer

29:50

just feel bad for her. And so those are a couple things that you might do like

29:55

you’re kind of like, you know, compensating for somebody else’s pain or you you you just feel that you really

30:02

want to help them. Um there needs to be some boundaries on Oh, also the sensitivity.

30:08

Um if you’re a kid when you were a kid and everyone’s telling you, well, you’re too sensitive, or they’re talking to you in a high-pitched voice like you’re a

30:14

little baby. Okay, you’re not stupid. There’s nothing wrong with being sensitive. There’s nothing wrong with

30:20

caring. And that is what you are made of. And so to try to take pills to get

30:26

rid of it, right, is going to create dissonance. It’s going to create illness. It’s going to create separation of self at the soul

30:34

level. But that’s going to be exactly what happens. The people in your life, they’re going to be all these layers

30:40

trying to hold you down, make you feel too sensitive, blah blah blah blah blah. But one day, it’s going to hit you and

30:46

it’s going to be like, you know what? They could go pound salt. this is what I feel called to do. I want to help people

30:52

in a way that feels good for me. And then we make that split, that break, which might feel defiant or oh my god, I

31:00

can’t believe you’re not listening to me or whatever it is. But we have to follow our own soul’s

31:05

calling. And when we don’t, our world gets more and more polluted,

31:11

more and more flying towels, and we’re that drier lint trap, and we’re wondering why we can’t breathe. And

31:17

that’s because we’re not in tune with being who we are. Okay. Interesting. Very useful, guys. If

31:25

you were wondering if you’re an empath or something, well, you have some uh hints here. But Susie, my next question,

31:32

um you mentioned also that you have, you know, a a lot of fixed energy in the

31:38

chart, but also a lot of Virgo. And Virgo tends to be very mental. No. So,

31:45

so where is the intuition coming from? Or how do you manage the fixed energy? Maybe I’m just

31:51

looking at the bad side of things, but you know, you have fixed energy, Virgo, which can be very like but also a

31:58

wonderful anian analyst, psychological analyst, Virgo.

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But how do you manage to not fall into this rigidity of the Scorpio, Leo, and

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then the Virgo? I think the Virgo kind of keeps me in check. So, five planets in Virgo.

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You’re still in. I’ve got and they’re personal planets. I’ve got Wow. I’ve got Mercury,

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Venus, Jupiter, Uranus,

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and Pluto. So, yeah, in my 10th house and Virgo and then Scorpio rising. This

32:40

is very like I rising psychology therapy and then my moon in Taurus in the

32:47

seventh house. Ah okay. Okay. Yeah. And I have no air in my chart.

32:54

So how does that show up? I lack tact. I do not have tacted. I’m very

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straightforward. Um which was not easy as far as like my

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daughter is sensitive. She’s got she’s a Taurus moon. I mean a Taurus sun with a

33:11

Pisces moon. So ultra sensitive. Okay. So, you know, P Leo and Pisces

33:17

don’t see each other. Right. Right. Um and so I’m just like, you

33:22

know, direct and forward like you got to do this, you got to do that. Well, I don’t like how you asked me, so I’m not doing it. And um and and so as I aged, I

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call it seasoned. As I grew and progressed, I tried to be more

33:38

compassionate with how I sound. Cuz earlier in my life, soon after getting out of my marriage, I was so clueless

33:45

and distraught, I would just like blow up. It’s like I don’t say anything, don’t say anything, don’t say anything. And then I would blow up

33:52

because I wouldn’t because nobody contributed to the household. It was me and I was just taking people in. So

33:59

there was one point I had seven people living under my roof and I was the only one paying the bills.

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So it’s cuz I wanted to be able to be what I never I wasn’t able to cook. I

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wasn’t able to do anything. I was all under the control of that person. And anyways coming back to to to to to

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the sensitivity and the Virgo. I cannot fluff things up to deliver it

34:25

clearly. I just have to say it the way that that it shows up because otherwise

34:30

I I’m like and it’s just not I’m trying to be sensitive. I’m trying to engage kind of

34:37

Libra energy which is you know I’m going to put myself in your shoes and try to speak to you in a compassionate

34:44

sensitive man. Oh, it doesn’t work. It just doesn’t because I get all hung up and then

34:50

I’ll write a beautiful crafted like a Facebook post. Oh, that’s good. Bing.

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And then I get in the shower and another word come. You should have used that word. Oh my god. Yeah. And then get out

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of the shower and you start deconstructing and now it’s starting to lose its its whole composition.

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So that overthinking um the the analysis paralysis that five planets in Virgo provides. Um my my oh

35:15

my yeah my Venus is in Virgo. I love work. I’m married to my work. I and I

35:21

love people who love their work. So that’s super true. Super duper true. And

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I love to write and I write for the papers and I love to present. So it’s funny that I have no air in my chart cuz

35:34

clearly I can talk. I don’t have any tact. But interestingly

35:39

during my marriage I did not have a voice whatsoever which it which I like

35:45

to evidence when I’m doing a demonstration with tuning forks. So, I could sound a tuning fork and hold bring

35:51

it closer to a person. And if they’re not speaking up for themselves, that fork will start to go softer and softer

35:58

and maybe even silent. But if somebody has a healthy throat energy and I strike that fork and I

36:05

bring it up, it’s going to resonate. Wow. Because I like I love this.

36:10

Be my Scorpio. I need proof for everything. Even with energy healing, when I first started, I said a cardinal

36:16

just flew by. When I first started, I’m like, uh, I don’t think I’m actually

36:21

doing anything. And my clients were like, oh, I feel so much better. And I honest to God thought, I think they’re

36:27

just saying it to make me feel good. And so now I’m like, I got to find an equipment. I got to measure this. I got

36:32

to know. I need proof. And I looked high and low and I finally found this BOF feedback device. So I bought it. And

36:38

then I was terrified to use it cuz what if there was no change? So I had it for

36:44

maybe three months. And a girl who I had seen came back. She brought her boyfriend and he was a little bit

36:51

skeptical, but he was open. And I got a little voice saying, “Use it with this guy.” And inside my head, I am

36:56

terrified. Terrified. Oh my god. And I got to keep on my uh you know, my

37:02

professional face. So I’m like, “Okay.” So I explain about the I put it’s like a Fitbit. I put it on. I take the thing.

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He was all red. A lot of pain, like physical pain, back issues um from an accident and so forth. So I do the

37:14

energy healing and I and we do the after scan and I’m like oh no beautiful blues

37:22

greens and I was like oh thank you thank you I was so scared and so I go to look

37:28

at I was like oh this is awesome but I couldn’t let them see that because this is my profession

37:34

right but since then that I use it for everybody who has a physical inerson um

37:39

session I like to provide that proof. Yeah. Do you actually do um it has to be

37:45

in person with you or can also be zoom? How do you I do the sessions on Zoom around the

37:51

world and it has shrunken tumors. A woman in Germany um had some tumors and uh she um actually wrote me a review

37:59

actually her story was Hashimoto’s and she had she had big swelling of the eyes and because the eyes there was no pain

38:07

the doctors would not do anything about it and so she found me. We did two sessions. The swelling went completely

38:12

away and the woman’s um relation who was underage um had abscesses and they they

38:20

were going to be operated on in some very sensitive areas. And so she hired me. I did two sessions and they were

38:26

gone gone. They were able to cancel the surgery and everything. So So this is

38:31

effective no matter where you are. And I because I am an IT nerd that Virgo

38:39

got computer programming. Um I owned an IT installation company for several

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years. That was the first half of my life. All white collar IT and um Oops, I lost my train of thought.

38:52

Nowhere in my chart. Where was I going with that? Um the it around the world. Yeah. Oh, is how I how I imagine it.

39:01

Let’s say I have John Smith and he’s in Budapest. And for me, it’s like I pull

39:06

up his IP address. Uhuh. I got you. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

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And and and in another uh uh modality, you just you pull up their hologram.

39:17

And so there’s all kinds of ways or you can use a proxy. I can use this little pretend bird and this is John Smith or

39:24

whatever his name was. And so there’s all different kinds of ways you can do that. And what that actually is, it’s

39:29

it’s quantum. It’s quantum entanglement. And so this is quantum science and it’s evidential. It’s pro. It’s provable and

39:37

it works. And I’ve got, you know, plenty of testimonials that evidence that work. Somebody doesn’t need to get surgery

39:43

anymore. Just wonderful, wonderful things. Yeah. Yeah. That’s great. That’s really exciting to know that these things can

39:49

be done, you know, online as well because for a physical therapy, most I think they need you to be there or

39:55

something. I don’t know. That’s just my experience maybe. Yeah. So I I just umbrella it under

40:00

holistic psychotherapy. Uhhuh. So I don’t call it physical therapy.

40:06

I call it a a deep energy healing. Or uh you know a reading is reading a

40:13

person’s energy. You know psychic is your energy, your pets and that kind of thing. And then mediumship is are the

40:19

people that you’ve known or or passed away pets um that show up. And it’s all

40:24

within a 6ft diameter or a 12t no radius. 6t

40:31

radius or 12t diameter your whole life is there. So you’re conception is six

40:37

feet away from you like a tree ring. Mhm. And so if I took a tuning fork and I’m 6

40:44

feet away from you and there’s a disturbance, then that means there was issues, you know, way before you were

40:50

even a growing thing.

40:55

Interesting. I wanted to ask you, yeah, about your mediumship. Mediumship. That’s how you say mediumship. Yes.

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Because maybe some people here, I include myself, um, when do we know if it’s, you know, sometimes I I’m going to

41:09

be honest, sometimes I hear voices like in voices, no, but I don’t know if it’s my second brain. I don’t know if it’s my

41:16

intuition. I don’t know if there’s actually my grandma telling me something like how do we know like if it’s real? I

41:25

don’t know. Which also weaves in with the whole empath thing, too. So the sensitivity

41:30

opens you up to the collective consciousness which makes you way more sensitive when big world events happen.

41:36

Now mediumship um and your intuition

41:42

if it says hey stupid okay that’s your mind if it’s very soft and subtle gentle or

41:50

even a soft energy in your periphery you look there’s nothing there that’s your intuition

41:56

if it feels familiar you get a smell of your grandmother’s perfume or cigarette smoke if somebody wasn’t smoke that is

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them showing up and it’s your psychic pickmeups how your your your your

42:08

psychic strength um is how you’re going to receive that. Uh because everybody

42:14

has different strengths in their kind of like spiritual batteries, your chakra system. Some are stronger than others.

42:20

So, a hornet is walking across the camera. Okay. Doesn’t sting me. Okay. Um

42:26

Okay. Um, now if if there’s a familiarity,

42:32

something your grandmother used to say or you smell the pies that she used to make, then that’s clearly your grandmother. Especially if it’s around a

42:39

a holiday, a birthday, something that’s a meaningful day, their birthday, when they transitioned, that’s for sure.

42:47

If it’s not related to somebody that you knew, then it’s your own higher self,

42:52

your spirit guide. Um, we can label those things, but it’s outside of our

42:58

physical self. Hearing voices is uh

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clear audience and so that’s going to be one of your strengths. Now, it’s not it’s not always

43:08

going to be as like hey like that. That’s the problem that it’s in my I

43:14

think it’s it’s in my head but no because how can they tell me this information that just I never thought

43:20

about like you know things that why are you telling me this like and then yeah

43:26

so that’s where the problem is for me personally probably other people have different things and they don’t they

43:32

don’t know what to do with those they don’t know even if it’s real so want to be paying attention to that

43:39

um I think it’d be great to keep a little diary and When you get those messages, write them down.

43:44

Yeah. Yeah. Excuse me. Because they’re not always going to make sense now, right?

43:50

Cuz sometimes we’ll get weird uh shapes like diamonds or a spiral or

43:57

or we smell something and we don’t know why. So, it could be, you know, I don’t want to be like in a negative, but it

44:02

could be a forewarning about something like pay attention. Yeah. And then maybe don’t go that way. You

44:08

know, if you smell smoke, that means there’s fire, right? So there might be they might be warning you maybe don’t go

44:14

to that concert or or or maybe take a detour today or something like that. You

44:19

want to really now when you get pressure or high pitch ringing in your ear, you

44:24

got to pick up the phone cuz that is whatever you would like to label that as spirit.

44:30

Okay, trying to get a hold of you. Now I wanted it. I you know I wanted to know

44:35

I wanted I wanted everything. I wanted to know how to do that matt cuz I wanted to be my own authority and that is

44:41

because I spent half my life feeling helpless and stupid and I can’t and all that disempowering stuff. So, I just

44:49

wanted to know everything so that I can be the authority and no one’s going to tell me what to do. And that’s why I just went crazy in all of these other um

44:57

modalities. Mhm. Mhm. But um uh when you when you get a vision

45:05

or a something in your dreams too, you want to write that down because you

45:10

might see a pattern over a period of time. Um and it’s almost like a like a puzzle,

45:15

like you’re getting a piece, but it doesn’t make sense yet. After you get a few pieces, oh that’s what it was. And

45:23

then it’s kind of like you win the prize because now it makes sense and the picture is complete enough that you can

45:29

make out what it is. You really It’s very important when you get this. I was

45:35

saying I wanted to know and I’m getting this pitch and this pressure and I’m getting angry

45:40

because I don’t know what it means. Who is I want to know? Me and my wanting to know this

45:46

um prevented prevented that from making sense to me. Definitely. But now you have to relax

45:53

into it. And there is so much in the energy of surrender. But when you’re a control freak, you don’t talk about

45:59

surrender cuz you think that’s weak. It’s not that. It’s saying, you know, it doesn’t mean a white flag. I’m giving

46:06

up. I’m powerless. It means, okay, I’m going to stop trying to work it the hard

46:11

way. I’m going to just relax for a minute and see what shows up. That’s

46:16

when it works. It’s kind of like when you have, let’s say you have to go to an important appointment

46:22

and now you can’t find your keys and you have enough cushion and you

46:29

start looking for the keys, but now times and now you start panicking and now you start pulling the house apart

46:34

and you and now you’re you’re late for the forget it. And so you’re all upset, you’re distressed and you collapse into

46:39

your chair and you look down and the keys are right there. So these kinds of things happen

46:44

there for other for larger reasons than we’re able to know in that moment.

46:51

Maybe if you would have left on time, you would have gotten in an accident or maybe you were actually meant to meet

46:57

that person or something, right? So there’s always a greater reason. You just when you get this, you imagine

47:03

picking up the phone. You be patient. So a lot of us are just no good at being patient, right?

47:08

But that’s what you have to do. So, it’s the only way you can get through these hurdles. Um, start to decode what your

47:14

spirit guides are trying to tell you. Um, but I I’m still hearing know your worth. So, that might be for you because

47:21

that showed up during that channel. Oh, yeah. That definitely is for me. I can tell you you have a lot of uh what I

47:29

pick up is you have a lot of air and you have a lot of these question marks over

47:34

above the back of your head and it’s kind of like you know I I think this is

47:40

right for me is what you’re saying. I think this is right for me. Well, there’s a whole bunch more a So it’s

47:48

kind of like you’re enjoying the appetizers right now. So, you’re having the salad and the, you know, whatever

47:54

the appetizers are, but there’s like a grand entree trying to come in. Plus,

47:59

you get dessert and specialty drinks. So, there’s all these things that are trying to come in for you. And right

48:06

now, you’re just you’re kind of trickling. You’re like, “Well, this is what I think I like. This feels safe for

48:11

me.” That’s what your energy is showing. Yeah. Wow. This is so accurate. I have

48:17

to say, well, for those who are curious, yes, I have three planets in Aquarius. I have Chiron in Gemini. Um,

48:25

oh my gosh, there it is. Oh, I love Aquarius energy so much.

48:31

Oh, I do. I do. So much. This is your calling card starting to reveal itself. And this is going to

48:38

reveal your higher purpose. So, not just your regular human dayto-day, okay?

48:43

But this is this is for you. is revolutionary and it’s kind of like I’m going to lift this comforter off me and

48:49

use it as a cape superwoman but you are not for everybody

48:55

and that’s the other thing kind of like how I was saying I can’t be for everybody and you are for the people of

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the higher mind who are of the nonwateredown society and it is truth driven it is

49:09

intelligence nope it is it’s a higher level of intelligence that

49:15

you’re really magnetized towards, but you yourself are putting your yourself below that. You’re kind of like Gemini

49:22

and a quarter. Yes, I have that issue. I’m not going to lie. I have a lot of self-worth issues.

49:27

It’s true. I think people know this and I always share it because it’s true, you know, like I’m not the only one, but I’m

49:34

trying to to do something about it or, you know, I’m not going to just stop doing things because I, you know, I know

49:41

I’m working on it. um you know doing these interviews but everything you’re saying it’s very very accurate so thank

49:47

you for that and I am impressed by how you can pick up on things even through the screen. Oh yeah yeah yeah cuz energy doesn’t lie

49:55

and you know I don’t I’m not looking at your physical self you know it’s not like that ever. It’s just the way that

50:02

energy shows up for me and because it’s what I do like it’s my profession

50:08

it just gets stronger and stronger. Yeah. Actually, what are some practices for those who want to develop their

50:15

intuition or or these kind of like energy healing um how you say tools?

50:22

What are some practices you keep during the day in order to you know keep yourself grounded and also tune in to

50:29

the different energies? What tips can you give us?

50:35

Nutrition is really important. You’ve got to take excellent care of your vessel. um so that it operates. Think of

50:42

an instrument. You’ve got to take excellent care of your instrument so that you develop a relationship. So

50:48

people that are musicians, they’ve got a relationship with their instrument and that instrument knows that person. So I

50:54

have that relationship with my gongs. Somebody else can hit my gong and it’s not going to do the same thing. There’s

51:00

a dynamic there. So your physical self is the instrument. Your consciousness

51:06

lives inside of you. Your higher power is inside of you. is being able to let those things talk to each other

51:13

and start making some sense so that there’s harmony, so that there’s good backup vocals. So, because you are a

51:18

walking symphony, and when you’re out of tune, you’re going to have doubts. You’re going to

51:24

find people that want to fight with you and just that yucky stuff.

51:29

Taking care of your vessel is number one. Staying hydrated and having clean, organic food

51:36

and not having the crap. Now, I do love ice cream, so I will have some. If I

51:43

want something, I’m going to have it. But sometimes your body just says, you know, I feel like I need to have spinach or I feel like I need to have You got to

51:50

pay attention to that. Okay, so that’s the first thing. And the next thing is you do all of the work

51:55

from your heart space. All of it. All of it. Because as soon as your head gets involved, you it starts losing its power

52:03

because now there’s judgments and there’s the filters of your own life that you’re going to, you know, well,

52:08

this person went through that. Well, oh my god, this was my experience. No, that’s not how you’re here to help

52:13

somebody. You want to separate that and advise

52:18

them in a way for their soul’s growth, which is not going to based on your experience unless they ask for that. Um,

52:27

and that again is a boundary thing because we are such helpful people that we want to offer that, but it’s not

52:33

always wanted. And so I’ve gotten, you know, my hand slapped a couple of times

52:39

because I feel in in those instances I overstep my boundary. So maybe they

52:44

don’t want to know how I relate to them. Everyone doesn’t want that. True. Um, you’re you want to um stay in your

52:51

heart and you do everything from there. And this because the heart never lies. And even measuring the frequencies of

52:58

the brain and the heart, the hearts felt way far away, like seven times more than the energy that our brain sends out. Um,

53:06

get rid of things like fluoride, processed sugars, because your pineal gland is your little antenna. It’s like

53:12

a little polywog. And big brother wants this to remain calcified. And that’s why

53:18

everyone they they want everyone on prescriptions and putting the things in the air and all this stuff.

53:24

Um, and I I I the proper thing next to say would be meditation, but I am I walk

53:32

my talk. So I don’t go for an hour. I don’t do any of that.

53:37

Um, but before I go to sleep and when I wake up, I just kind of plug in and I I

53:42

open up, you know, frame how is this day? How do I want to frame in this day?

53:48

And then that’s going to be what you’re aligning to. Because the olden days when I was first out of my marriage and I was

53:53

broke and I was drinking. I was a alcoholic and and I would and and and I

54:00

had to take the insurance off my van cuz I was broke and I was putting my money in the wrong places and um and so how

54:07

could I work if I can’t take myself anywhere? This is way before you know mobile. And my mailman came and he

54:13

brought me a stack of bills and shut off notices. and it was a Saturday morning and I come out and I meet him and

54:19

receive the mail and I say to him why don’t you bring me anything good and my mailman looks at me and he goes buy

54:26

something and so he leaves I go in the house and I just kind of have this epiphany washing over me like wait a

54:32

minute there’s something in that so I can’t just sit back and let expect something to land in into my lap I

54:38

wanted like a big happy Gilmore check for all of the pain and suffering I went through like and it’s not going to

54:44

happen it doesn’t happen that way. And so when that happened, I decided, you know what? I’m going to go into business

54:50

for myself. And that’s when I started my first IT company. It’s being able to take that initiative

54:56

and then trust. How am I going to do it? I don’t know. I just know that this isn’t working.

Light Language, Star Origins & Cosmic Activation

55:01

It’s like once you bottom out, you can’t fall off the floor. And you have to reach that point to start realizing

55:08

there’s more. There’s something more. And then as you open up to receive this divine guidance, it’s going to nudge

55:15

you. You’ll get little pulses of information that you might feel in your body.

55:21

I feel like I got to do this or I don’t know or a picture. Maybe it’s a maybe it’s a a hotel and maybe you look

55:27

up the hotel and there’s a conference going on there this weekend that you belong at.

55:32

Yeah, this this Excuse me. Bless you. Awesome, Zeie. Thank you for that. Oh,

55:38

bless you. Bless you. Oh, though those are cuffs because I was using that grally voice and I didn’t

55:44

bring a drink out with me. Okay, awesome. Thank you. I had a nice smoothie I made last night.

55:50

That looks refreshing. Whatever you’re drinking. Yep. Lots of fruit.

55:55

Nice. So, Susie, tell us um if we want to work with you, what would be the best

56:00

way to contact you and what upcoming conferences or events you have online and offline in New York?

56:08

Wonderful. Um, I always do a Lion’s Gate retreat in August. So, come to New York

56:13

every august. I’m always doing very, very powerful, life-changing retreats.

56:19

But the easiest way to find me is my website, which is susie-woo.com. It’s suzy-

56:26

I’ll leave the details in the description below for anyone who wants to work with Susie or or anyone who is

56:32

curious about upcoming events. So, you’re doing the I do list my events there. Yeah. Yeah, you do. Yes.

56:38

But there’s going to be some you don’t know about cuz I didn’t put it on there yet. Um I am going to be starting

56:44

September 1st doing a monthly free healing circle

56:50

because everybody can’t afford a session and so this is for them and um bringing intentions in for the month.

56:57

Um so that’s going to happen the first of every month. I’m going to be uh re doing again my

57:04

healers course. So, I’ve rewritten my healers course to include some of the stuff from ancient mystery school.

57:10

Um, that’s going to be mindblowing. So, everybody that’s ever taken my healers course, their whole life ch I mean, this

57:15

is this is this is no small potatoes. It’s big stuff. Um, so I haven’t announced that yet, but we will be launching before the

57:23

end of this year. So, if you want to learn how to do what it is that I do, um, you’re going to want to subscribe to

57:29

my newsletter. my newsletter. I call it my wooletter, which you can do on my website. And um

57:36

I’m going to be doing some light language training to help you connect to

57:41

your light language, especially because I had such a hard time um and spiritual development. So there’s

57:48

and these are online, by the way. My healer’s course is online. A lot of these classes I’ll be offering are

57:53

online. they’re just as powerful then maybe even more because maybe you’re not

57:59

distracted by the environment or whatever but it works everything it’s very strong stuff um we will be doing some

58:07

past life um work and I will be regressing you in a group um and we will

58:14

doing a the biggest traumatic past life that shows up and

58:19

we’re going to clear that and then we’re going to download the healed version of that into your current template and that

58:25

will change the trajectory of your life. Some people have phobias like a fear of drowning and it’s not from this lifetime

58:32

like nothing happened to them. It’s because you’ve drowned in a previous lifetime. Yeah. Um a lot of us hate having anything

58:38

around the neck, you know. Well, that’s cuz we either either been choked or beheaded or something like that. Like I

58:45

don’t like how you say bracelets. you don’t like bracelets most likely as

58:52

being shackled. You most actually I’m seeing giant um like rock formations and that you were left um you were left and

59:00

the whole other group like they they went and you were left behind. And you couldn’t tell anybody and you

59:05

couldn’t take care of yourself because you were shackled to this almost like a cave.

59:11

Yeah. Yeah. Y so these are some of the things that that you will soon be able to find on my

59:18

website. Wow. Very interesting to know. Fascinating. So you have you have the online courses

59:24

and you I know like every other week people in New York every other weekend Zusi is doing a retreat somewhere. So

59:31

guys, not quite that much. Then I would burn out. Yeah. Yeah. Meant like you know every two

59:38

weeks or something. I remember checking your website. Wow, she’s really active with the retreats.

59:43

Yeah. Well, they’re just so powerful. I love retreats. To me, it’s almost like addicting. And that’s another thing with my Scorpio

59:49

rising. I get obsessed. I just go all in and the just the

59:55

feedback. Leo needs feedback. Um makes it self validating. And then my

1:00:02

guides are like, “See, I told you.” Like, yeah. But what’s scary a lot of times is when

1:00:08

I create an event, I can’t script it because it’s not

1:00:14

natural. So, I’ll do a couple of bullet points to frame it in, but then it’s my

1:00:21

guides that are doing most of the talking. So, that’s scary. Yeah.

1:00:27

Yeah. I don’t know what’s going to come out. So, I have, okay, here’s the title. And then I kind of close my eyes and

1:00:33

everything starts coming out of me and people are like, “Whoa.” And I’m like, “Whoa.”

1:00:38

It’s scary, but it’s fun. Um, and it’s just really about learning how to trust,

1:00:45

which for me, it’s like they say you got to get out of the way.

1:00:51

I kind of imagine like a manhole on a road and that I have to take the lid off and put it aside and then all the light

1:00:57

comes through. Uh-huh. And in my teachings, I also like to say um Can you hear that squeaking?

1:01:04

Not really. Okay. Cuz my dog is playing with a squeaky toy. Um I say that you are the faucet. You’re

1:01:12

never the water. And so that as that spiritual wonderful stuff is coming through you, if you’re serving somebody,

1:01:20

you still get those benefits. I could heal all day long. I had a long day. I

1:01:26

don’t work these long hours anymore, but I went from 10 to 6, so that’s eight hours, but it was non-stop and it was

1:01:33

all healing all day long. So the actually Okay, I finished at 9 that night. So the last person um he was a

1:01:41

back injury and he’s like, “Aren’t you tired?” And I’m like, “No, because everything going through me energizes

1:01:48

me.” It It’s very important to know it’s not your energy. It’s not yours. It’s coming through you.

1:01:56

True. You’re like you’re like a tool. No. Or something. Yeah. Yeah. You’re the faucet. You’re not the

Being the Vessel, Not the Source: How Healing Really Works

1:02:01

water. If you go to a Reiki or a healer and when they finish your session, if

1:02:07

they’re tired or they said that took everything out of them, you better never see them again because it means they’re

1:02:12

using their energy. In fact, I know somebody who saw a healer who was they just did it for the wrong reasons. I am

1:02:19

a guru. You know, just the wrong reasons. and the person who kept seeing this

1:02:25

person ended up getting a tumor on their pituitary gland. You want to vet your healer. You want to

1:02:32

do your research. You want to look them up. You want to check references if you can. And you have to

1:02:38

trust how you feel. So for me, people will see my picture on my website. And they’ll say, “Oh, I saw

1:02:44

your picture and I knew I had to work with you or I felt a connection or I feel like I know you or whatever it is. I feel like you have something for me.”

1:02:51

And it’s always correct. And you got to learn to trust. That’s the biggest biggest thing. Get out of the way and

1:02:57

trust what you’re getting. Yes, we are working on that here.

1:03:04

So, Zusi, oh my god, it’s been a pleasure. It’s been already one hour. It really went so fast, but I want to thank

1:03:11

you for being here. And just the last question I am assuming maybe my assumption is wrong that you use the the

1:03:18

natal chart with your clients no to understand how do you use the natal

1:03:23

chart in your in all these activities you do because I was actually that was my last question I forgot to ask you.

1:03:29

Oh, it’s so even if I’m doing an energy healing on somebody, I want to see their chart

1:03:35

always what’s sticking out and I just find what sticks out. And to me, any planets in Scorpio or any planets in the

1:03:41

eighth house equals trauma for me and it’s so much it’s been pretty fail

1:03:47

fail safe. Um, so we address those. Um, wow.

1:03:52

Anything that jumps out really. So there’s not one main something. Mhm. But the chart a lot of times will

1:03:59

actually kind of speak to me or the nature of how they’re living a particular planet placement.

1:04:05

I’ll get a ripple of energy. Well, see, I’m being corrected. It’s a ripple of truth. So, a ripple of truth, but it’s

1:04:11

like it’s like a player piano, the sheet music with the bumps.

1:04:16

Yeah. And it comes through and I just start talking. So, a lot of times if I’m doing a reading, I’ll pull the chart up, I’ll

1:04:23

start reading the chart, and then other information will supplement that, which is what they needed to hear,

1:04:29

and then I’ll go back to the chart. And so, it it’s a uh in integrating

1:04:35

in integr what’s the word I’m looking for? Like integrative.

1:04:40

Yeah. Yeah. It’s an integrated reading. That’s what integrative. I absolutely love the

1:04:45

chart. Oh, and you know, one more really important thing is how people don’t identify with their

1:04:53

sign because the sun is in a different house. Like it is I don’t understand why

1:04:58

nobody teaches this. And the big one, the big one is a Leo with the sun in the

1:05:03

12th house. Uhhuh. They don’t identify with their sign. They’re going to identify more with

1:05:09

Pisces. They’re going to be introverted. They’re going to have felt invisible their whole life. Nobody ever

1:05:14

sees me. And here’s how you know when you’re in grammar school and the teacher asked a question, you raise your hand

1:05:19

and they picked everyone else and not you. And you’re good and you’re kind and um

1:05:25

so you’re not going to be a big old loudmouth even though you’re a Leo and Leo will

1:05:30

say, “I don’t I don’t identify at all with my sign.” So there must be nothing to this astrology stuff that couldn’t be

1:05:37

further from the truth. It’s just the fact that your son is in an invisible

1:05:43

house and you’re an empath, which is not a Leo quality. Wow. Interesting. Oh, I would love to to

1:05:50

have a reading with you. Anyway, so Susy, thank you so much for your energy, for all this. Really, it went like 20

1:05:57

minutes. I cannot believe it’s already 1 hour, but thank you so much, guys. I’m going

Working with Natal Charts & Why You Might Not Feel Like Your Sign

1:06:03

to leave Susi’s um details, her website and social media stuff below in the

1:06:08

description in case you want to work with Susie or if you’re in New York and you want to attend one of her retreats,

1:06:14

please do it for me. So, Susie, any final advice you want to give us for

1:06:20

this upcoming uh second part of 2025? Oh boy. Yeah, what a shakeup. What a

1:06:27

shakeup. Uh I definitely expect more reveals. Um, I kind of feel I’m getting

1:06:33

something coming through the sky that is prophetic. So, it might be a comet. Um,

1:06:39

power grids going down. Um, I’m getting some airplane crashes. This is live like

1:06:44

right now. Um, okay. It is a new energy of the skies and the earth. So, that to

1:06:52

me is saying like a higher octave. More people are getting on board as far as like their own um inner language, their

1:06:59

inner dialogue, the light language. Okay. Layers of remaining layers of old

1:07:04

um concepts of uh stringent um the the old brotherhood,

1:07:11

the the clamping down um is is we’re in the aftermath of now.

1:07:17

See, I wouldn’t have said that, but that’s what I was told. We’re in the aftermath of now. And that we want to talk to our nervous

1:07:23

system. Uh that’s super important. And then listen and pay attention for the signs.

1:07:28

There’s a lot of blue energy and a lot of gold energy. We’re getting plleadenss. We’re getting

1:07:34

some ones some uh consciousness that hasn’t even been able to be here.

1:07:40

They’re appearing as a guest. I feel a it might be Arcturan, but it it almost

1:07:45

feels like the grandparents of those are coming back and they’re coming from a black galaxy is what they’re saying.

1:07:53

And um to know oneself is taking on a whole another level of understanding.

Channeled Message for 2025-2026

1:08:00

Pay attention to your guides and everybody has them. And always speak to

1:08:06

what is your own higher truth. And it’s okay to not know. As long as you’re open to get the answers, that’s how we can

1:08:14

connect and give the information into your nervous system. Important to stay hydrated. And you want to even like

1:08:22

infuse your food or pray over your food in water before you ingest it. And that

1:08:29

we’re getting a lot of healing um um

1:08:34

anatomically. So we are we’re kind of getting little operations happening in

1:08:40

our genes during this particular phase of what we’re going through. Really exciting

1:08:45

times. Amazing. Thank you for that message. It was brilliant. Susie, thank you so much.

1:08:50

Thank you guys for being here with us. I hope you enjoy this episode with Susy and see you in the next episode. Thank

1:08:58

you so much. Bye. Bye. Bye. [Music]

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