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Professional and Spiritual Astrologer, Healer
Ian Altosaar (Leo Sun, Aries Moon and Libra rising), is known as “The Freedom Astrologer,” and his work is dedicated to helping people create more inner freedom—emotionally, spiritually, and in the way they make decisions.
He blends astrology with lived experience, spiritual practice, and a therapeutic approach that focuses on releasing old pain patterns rather than getting stuck in fear-based “predictions.” In this episode, Ian shares his own story of transformation—moving from addiction, emotional overwhelm, and survival-mode thinking into a life of purpose, service, and creation.
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In Episode 4 of Backstage Astrology, host Mayra Medina sits down with Spiritual Astrologer Ian Altosaar. Ian opens up about what “freedom” really means—and how it’s often born through pain. He shares the turning point that shifted him out of addiction and toward healing, how astrology became a tool for mapping wounds and gifts, and why fear-based readings can be damaging.
This conversation goes beyond concepts: it’s practical, emotional, and deeply human—covering sensitivity, boundaries, nervous system regulation, Pluto transits, family conditioning, and the kinds of inner work that actually change outcomes.
Ian’s approach is integrative: he draws from multiple branches and uses astrology as a map to locate:
where pain originates
what the nervous system is holding
what gifts are trying to emerge
how to meet transits with responsibility (instead of fatalism)
A central theme in his work is freedom through awareness: if you can see the pattern clearly, you can stop reenacting it blindly—and start choosing differently.
Ian describes a life that began in control, fear, and self-protection, shaped by family dynamics and the stories we build in childhood to survive.
A major low point—addiction, despair, and the sense that “death is next”—became the moment he finally prayed for change.
From there, spiritual experiences cracked him open, and astrology entered his life through observation, skepticism, and real-world testing. Over time he began reading charts (around 2015–2016) and turned professional later.
Now, his work centers on helping people identify the emotional root beneath the chart and build a new plan—not just describe the pattern.
Addiction, recovery, and the moment life “turns”.
Neptune in the 4th house: sensitivity, family-line gifts, emotional boundaries.
How to work with being highly empathic (grounding, meditation, water, boundaries).
Pluto transits (Pluto square Moon, Pluto square Sun, Pluto opposite Sun/Mercury).
Meeting fear by feeling it (and doing the thing anyway).
The “mind’s eye” practice: reducing fear by consciously imagining the feared scenario.
Astrology ethics: avoiding fear-manipulation and fatalistic language.
Building astrology tools + the launch of the Benefic app.
Upcoming creative expansions: 2026 calendar, teaching, community model.
“I help people be free.”
“Astrology… accurately shows you your pain—where does it originate from… and it shows you your gifts.”
“You can actually free yourself from the shackles of astrology.”
Latest / Current Projects:
Benefic Astrology & Horoscope app (download HERE).
Astrological Calendar for 2026 (visit Ian’s website).
Teaching + reopening/expanding courses (including more material on partnerships/deals).
Consultations evolving toward a community model (working with “the right people at the right time”).
Mayra Medina, Your Host
Mayra is a Creative Consultant for Astrologers working at the intersection of communication, branding, and archetypal astrology. Mayra believes that what truly drives visibility and impact is a compelling story, strong visuals, clear purpose, and thoughtful strategy. Learn more about what she can do for you:
What I Learned from Ian
1 / Freedom is not a concept — it’s an emotional skill.
What impacted me most was realizing that Ian doesn’t talk about freedom as an idea… but as something you practice. Feeling your fear. Sitting with your grief. Making the decision anyway. That changed the way I look at “hard transits.”
2 / Astrology doesn’t trap you. Your avoidance does.
When Ian said you can “free yourself from the shackles of astrology,” that really stayed with me. We sometimes hide behind our placements. “I’m a Libra, I can’t decide.” But maybe it’s not the sign — maybe it’s the wound underneath.
3 / Sensitivity requires responsibility.
As someone who is also very sensitive to environments, I deeply resonated with his Neptune-in-the-4th story. Being empathic is not romantic. It requires grounding. Boundaries. Self-awareness. That was a powerful reminder.
4 / Not all astrology empowers — and that matters.
The part about fear-based readings hit me. As astrologers, words matter. We’re not here to create dependency. We’re here to help people participate in their lives consciously.
That’s something I care about deeply.
5 / Your transits don’t define you — your response does.
Whether it’s Pluto square Sun or Uranus on Jupiter… Ian reminded me that no transit is “just happening” to you. There’s always a way to meet it. To prepare. To grow. To choose differently.
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where it kind of started for me is is I wasn’t free at all. I was very much uh
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in in my past pain and suffering and holding on to a lot of that thing those
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things. If you’re holding on to many things, many many pains from the past,
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it’s it’s really difficult to be in the moment and live your life fully. I was
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in a really bad place, you I was uh, you know, addicted to to alcohol and drugs
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and and all types of bad things. And I kind of prayed like, I need this to stop. I need, you know, I need something
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to change in my life because this I’m just destroying myself and I’m just like
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death is the next step most likely. She basically opened my eyes to a lot of
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things like started bringing these spiritual concepts to the plate and actually took me to a healer and um that
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healer was you know energetic energy healer and after that session my life
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completely changed like it completely changed like I started having these you
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know vision I have a Neptune in the fourth house so if you don’t know what Neptune in the fourth house is Neptune
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in the fourth houses it’s let’s say spiritual gifts from u from the family
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lineage. So I was like very confused about why some of the let’s say spiritual things are happening to me.
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Now I know this. So how can I live with this? How can I use this? How what can I actually do with this?
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And I think this is a maybe a good example of of how astrology can can help
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you. you know, is there an astrological placement in your chart that still feels like a wound
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say I worked worked with a company I did some work with them like it work for with them and I I like somehow it came
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out that I’m also an astrologer etc. It was a big thing like it was like so it was a very big thing and I ended up uh
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getting into an argument with one of the people because they didn’t really you know they wanted me to pro prove
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astrology to them. But like for me like my family just like completely
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ignores the fact that I’m an astrologer. They just they cannot deal with that at all. They they it’s it’s
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you know scientific background science all of my grandparents were scientists. one still is in the 80s still is a
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scientist. Oh yeah, definitely. The app is called Benefic. Um definitely you you
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can download it on Google Play right now. It’s it’s actually been a pretty optimistic and positive launch because
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we have close to 2,000 downloads. What part of the business side of astrology
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um has challenged your sense of freedom the most?
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That’s a freaking hell of a good question. Um, [Music]
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so welcome back to backstage backstage astrology. My name is Myra and today I
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am with Ian Altosar, the freedom astrologer. Ian, how are you today? Thanks for being here.
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I am doing exceptionally well. I’m really happy to be here. I’m just
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excited to be on the show. Um yeah, doing good. And um let’s let’s you know,
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dive in. Yeah. So, I usually ask the astrologers to to introduce themselves. So, how
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would you introduce yourself? How do you want people to to know you? I think the main part of of who I am and
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what I do is I help people be free. So, I use astrology mostly, but I also use
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other methodologies that I’ve developed and that I’ve learned through other teachers um through my own pain and
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suffering. And I’ve I I all I put it all together and I use it to help people be
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free because I think that’s one of the main things currently missing in our
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let’s say consciousness in our emotional lives in our you know even in our business lives. So I think this is this
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is the main focus of who I am and what the freedom astrologer kind of represents as well.
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Yeah. The the the freedom the war is very present. Obviously you’re known as the freedom astrologer but can you tell
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us more why freedom? Why is it so important? What’s the message behind it?
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You know the big thing is where it kind of started for me is is I wasn’t free at
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all. I was very much uh in in my past pain and suffering and holding on to a
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lot of that thing th those things and again like gradually through different
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types of spirit again like gradually through different types of spiritual
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awakenings through events very big events uh in my life I
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started to kind um you know put it put the pieces
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together that I am holding on to many things that I don’t necessarily need to
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hold on to. I can I’m living my life in a very um painful way. Let’s put it this
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way. I don’t really need to live it in that way. So once these types of kind of
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understandings come together and and like the ball starts rolling
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um then then bigger things start to reveal themselves to you and for me like
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it was step by step step by step and then gradually I understood okay so this is what I’m doing actually for myself
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I’m yearning more for more freedom in my life in my relationships in my you know
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how I interact with money business with people uh and and I think most
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especially it’s it’s still about how you are with yourself when you are alone
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this is this is and even with other people as well this is crucially important because you’re holding on to
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many things many many pains from the past it’s it’s really difficult to be in
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the moment live your life fully and you really need to start making um let’s say
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better decisions and and you need to understand what these things that you
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are actually holding on to are and how to let go of them. So that maybe sums it
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up a little bit. So what I am understanding understanding is that there was a journey that you
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know in order to get to this freedom that that you are uh now living. So, and can you tell us
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more about the journey specifically? Like how was it at the beginning? Was it
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like a like can you describe the journey? Was it like a lot of suffering but suddenly you had realizations or how
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did you evolve through that journey to get to where you are right now? So yeah, there was a lot of um there was
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a lot of control in my life. I definitely wanted to control everything but also there were these you know I we
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can call them beliefs beliefs about you know how I’m supposed to be in this
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world and how am I supposed to let’s say care about other people’s opinions a lot of those things come from your family
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background how you were raised what was the what was this childhood situation
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you know who raised you who was the main role model who who wasn’t there for me a big one who wasn’t there. You know, my
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father really wasn’t there. So these types of, you know, big things start to especially for a young
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malleable mind, they they they leave these scars, they leave these pains. Uh
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and you you you know as a young person you make these stories
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really bigger than they are because they most likely you don’t have anybody there to kind of support you to understand why
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you’re going through these things. So in your brain in your you know consciousness you you start to think oh
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you know if this person left if this person person isn’t there that means
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something is wrong with me. So if something is wrong with me, I can’t do this. So if something is wrong with me,
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I can’t, you know, uh be a basketball player. I can’t be a musician or I can’t do these things. So a lot of it is is
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those types of um ideas and and thoughts and and belief
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systems we develop for ourselves and we live in this type of prison that we’ve
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actually, you know, truthfully created for ourselves. Now the good news is you
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can you know get yourself out of it. And for me you know it was a very strange
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kind of uh set of events. I was this was already when I was in my early 20s a
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really bad place you know I was you know addicted to to alcohol and drugs and and
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all types of bad things. Um and but it was one kind of after a party. So I I
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was just a ride home. I think it was like 2 3 in the morning something crazy
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4 and I was alone and I was I just like started crying and I had hadn’t cried in
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maybe in years maybe I can’t remember exactly but then what happened was like
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something inside of me kind of prayed you know I hadn’t prayed in that moment
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for never ever kind of prayed like I need this to stop I need you know I need something to change in my life because
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this I’m just destroying myself and I’m just like death is the next step most likely. Um imagine like a 20 year old
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you know going through something like that. So was uh after that night I got
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into a relationship um quite soon like 3 6 months I can’t remember the exact
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timeline and uh she basically opened my eyes to a lot of things like started
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bringing these spiritual concepts to the plate and actually took me to a healer and um that healer was you know
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energetic energy healer and after that session my life completely changed
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completely. changed like I started having these you know visions and big I can obviously
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talk about these more but like these very big events um that I think might
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rock every anybody’s world and um then a lot of years later here I am basically
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yeah yeah exactly so so when did you first realize that astrology would play
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a central role in your life I I guess that this woman had something to do with
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it. But how did astrology find you? The next one actually. So this is this
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this is a weird one. Yeah, we that relationship ended. Uhhuh. Which I think in the long long run it
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was a good thing. So the next one happened and uh this is where it kind of astrology brought came in. I I I guess
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it came in a little bit earlier as well. I I got introduced somehow to Santos
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Bonacci’s work. He is a bit of a crazy guy I would say in astrology but he’s he’s an interesting one. But anyway so
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uh the relationship started the second one and what I started noticing was like
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as the relationship grew like 6 months in maybe 8 months in something like that
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I started noticing a pattern like every two weeks we would fight. I was like
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what the hell is going on? Why? Like it was like these fights were so big as well. I was like, why are we fighting
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every two weeks? Like I was noticing two weeks every time. Okay. So then by that
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time I was already kind of like doing this spiritual thing. I was asking the questions. I was kind of like meditating
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etc. So I was putting this out there. I was like so why why the hell is this happening to me and to us actually? And
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then randomly I was on YouTube um and I got I I I think I saw like
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Leo. Yeah, Leo’s predictions because I have Leo sun. So at that time I just
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know knew about the sun signs Leo sun sign prediction for like July or
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something and it was launch you know LA from really and it was her video
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and accurate very accurate and and I I started actually listening to video for some
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reason I clicked on it I was like okay and she explained like the moon how the moon is kind of influencing us the new
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moon the full moon etc etc Yeah. And then I was like I was very skeptical. I was like I don’t know your science
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scientific background, scientific family, you know why is this working? Can this work? And then I actually what
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I decided to do I was like hm okay I I observed it for a couple of months then I what I did was like an experiment. So
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I didn’t watch it for one month and I was like okay I so so I will watch it
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after the month is done and see if the results are accurate. And then they were
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really accurate and uh that was kind of like I was sold and you know a lot of
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became one of my teachers and and mentors and and people I work with as well you know later on in the years but
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at that moment I was like you know who is this lady just talking to me about my
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future you know. Anyway so how how long have you been
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practicing astrology and and how has it helped you in the journey to freedom
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towards freedom? Yeah. Yeah. Um this this is I think a twopart qu like an answer. I think practicing I
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started like reading charts and doing things for people around like
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2015 16ish some somewhere around that.
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I I became like a professional when I started getting paid you know to do it
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around beginning of 2019. So it it’s becoming like a decade
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already in in in that scene. I think around a decade. So I’ve been here for a
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really long time. Yeah. But uh you know how has it helped me towards freedom? Um I think it really
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accurately uh shows you your pain.
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Where does it originate from? If you know what you’re reading, if you know what you’re doing. Yeah.
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It shows you actually your gifts what why are things happening to you like
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I’ll give you an example like Neptune in the fourth house. So if you don’t know what Neptune in the fourth house is
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Neptune in the fourth house is it’s let’s say spiritual gifts from from the
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family lineage family line. So spiritual gifts are given through the through the
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family lineage. I was like very confused about why some of the let’s say spiritual things are happening to me. So
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I obviously started like learning and understanding and having conversations
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um with people and luckily one of you know my again my dad you know my father
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is is the guy who’s who has had these experiences who’s had these kind of
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awakenings here and there and he kind of told me about those things and what they
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meant to him and how they started for him it kind of started making sense to me okay Neptune in the fourth house this is
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you know this is making sense and um again then you learn more about Neptune
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it’s you know it’s dissolving of uh any type of boundary
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so for and then you put the fourth house there okay so fourth house is my emotions my emotional boundaries so
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Neptune dissolves my emotional boundaries okay what does that mean so for me it meant okay so now I understand
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why I can feel absolutely everything around me that is going on so maybe it’s
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a person Maybe it’s an event, maybe there’s a lot of people there. So I can immediately pick up, okay, so this
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person is feeling that, this this person is feeling that. And you know, at times when you’re a young person, it’s just
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overwhelming and you don’t know what to do with it. But like these types of things, they start to put the pieces together and then you can go into more
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of a place of okay, so know this, so how can I live with this? How can I use this? What can I actually do with this?
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And I think this is a maybe a good example of of how astrology can can help you.
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You know touching on that on that part of your journey where you are feeling everything I started feeling everything
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because maybe people can relate here. Aquar is listening to us. How do you deal with that? Because that must be
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draining emotionally draining you know and and yeah nobody teaches you how to set boundaries maybe. So how how do you
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deal with that over sensitivity if if that’s how you call it? Yeah, I would I would say it is it’s
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more like a you know intuitive sensitive person type type thing but yeah
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it is it can be a very difficult thing to do especially when you’re not aware
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of it. So because sometimes when you’re not aware of it you’re picking up on things that are not yours and you start
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to think that they’re yours. So suddenly you’re like you go into a place and you start feeling something and you now you
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think you’re angry or you’re agitated but you’re not actually you came into the place pretty happy and you’re you’re
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pretty grounded and but when you figure that out that it’s not maybe yours and you’re picking
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up that there are a couple of things uh you need to do. So first and foremost
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grounding nature this is like this is almost like number one.
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Number two is um meditation but meditation with a very let’s say focused
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type thing. So what I mean by focused type thing is I’m I can feel myself
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every time all the time where I’m at. So what I mean by this I can pull my
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attention back to my own body. You know at first you need to focus on something. Usually the heart is the easiest thing
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to focus on, but you can also focus on your body. So this is really like the most crucial
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thing when you’re a very sensitive person because that means you can actually pull your energy back from all
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those places into yourself. And now okay so I’m actually feeling this and most
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likely this person is actually feeling this. Now I can you know separate because I can understand what I’m
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feeling. So now when it gets a little too much is you know when there’s a lot of people. So what I mean by like like
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concerts um you know big events this is very tricky but you can still do it. You
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can still do it, but afterwards I I do recommend, you know, water uh any any type of water, drinking uh showers,
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baths, all of that is good just to cleanse to understand because again, what you’re actually doing, you’re
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bringing your awareness back to yourself because under the shower, you’re most likely alone. It’s good to be alone
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there at times. And and again, you can focus on yourself and your your um body
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if feeling what you’re actually feeling yourself because there’s a lot there’s a lot that’s being going going on and your
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nervous system is on high alert and you need to bring it down a little bit and then actually what what will most likely
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start happening as you um become better at it, you will actually start getting more
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accurate descriptions of what is happening. Who whose was it? Why was I given that? Like the these types of
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things start coming your way as well. Yeah. Maybe because you’re you’re you’re toning tuning into those things when you
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come back to your present moment. I don’t know. But it’s so interesting. So, it it seems to me because I’ve also
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taken some of your classes and I remember this super good book you have
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about sleeping better and I went through those a few weeks ago especially the the
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course you gave on how to make the best partnerships and deals which is very this is my opinion
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obviously my humble opinion but it touches it touches on self-esteem and self value
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and how you need like to make to be aware of of the gifts you have and and obviously the astrological positions
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that are most challenging. So I found that in for for myself truly truly
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helpful when it comes to getting to know yourself better, your fears, the
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confusion, the blockages and and all these um problems that you know we don’t
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share because you know we are always in automatic pilot we say in Spanish
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automatico. So that was really useful and also the the book sleep like sleep better where you tell us would where
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where you give us suggestions of how we can prepare to have a better sleep the
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routine that goes before and and all these um based on experience you actually tested this with your with your
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students and I I I think your astrology in my opinion is very healing is very about
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coming back to your authentic self in order to find freedom.
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So in in that regard, can you can you tell us how like what’s your expertise
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in astrology? Your favorite branch of astrology, your your what do you give? Do you do readings? You do therapy? How
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do you how does it work for you? How do you use astrology as a tool? Yeah. So I don’t you know I don’t have a Healing through Astrology
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very specific this is only my thing like Ietic modern. I I would say I I use them
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all. I I pull from all of them. Uh but one thing that I do with my
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consultations is I I usually like to, you know, start with with the person
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like saying like this is what I’m working when I’m going through this. Can you help me with this? basically.
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So, this is when I usually do like an initial let’s say screening or a
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briefing and I look at the chart and I send like a little uh summary of notes
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to the person like is this what you’re doing? Does this originate from this etc
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etc uh kind of like a feeler thing and also to to help the person to kind of
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prepare for what’s to come. And then when there’s a let’s say let’s say the
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consultation part comes it’s more it’s a lot I use astrology during the consultation as well. I look at the
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thing uh I look at the chart and everything and we look at the transits and what’s going on and what’s going to
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come. But very often when you actually want to experience freedom and re let’s
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say um release some of the old things that we’ve been bothering you you have
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to be a little bit open with me and and be okay with me proddding a little
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because usually what I start doing is you know when the person comes to me I
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start when they start talking I start feeling things immediately like here is the pain here is something you know
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triggering what’s this about you know something like that usually starts happening or you know sometimes I get
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like you know mother father you know I start getting voices etc etc so I then I
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start giving that to the person and we go through we go through a definitely
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let’s say like a spiritual therapy session where I where I work with with a
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specific let’s say wound or place that needs attention so I can give you give
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you like an example of of a person um who was working with their I have a
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permission to share this because we’ve also worked with I very often I I like to create these stories you know stories
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about the session whoever is um willing to share anonymously obviously and and I
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I write up a kind of like um almost like a novel type um event from the uh the
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session so other people can actually heal from it because there’s a there’s um you know if you’re suffering from
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something most likely there are hundreds not even thousands or or maybe more millions of people suffering from the
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same thing and if you we can share your healing session story with others they will be
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much easier for them to heal. So yeah, ju just a just a like a very quick one
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is is when a person this person had a very let’s say controlling mother and
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every time they had this interaction with them they started feeling this anger they there was this like kind of
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like unfairness you know and and like I when they came to me I was like okay so there’s something in the chest so
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there’s lot of things in the chest unsaid I I I got really really angry all
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of a sudden when Okay. And then you know from that from that you know point you
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can actually start reflecting to the person like is this going on? Okay. So you’re angry. Okay. So it’s the mother.
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You’re angry at the mother and they’re like [ __ ] yeah I’m angry at my mother. I’m so pissed off at my mother because
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they keep doing the same thing all over again. It’s you know then you can go
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actually to the you know the the child self because very often these same patterns that are now repeating in adult
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life are actually originating from the childhood. this the mother they did the same thing during uh your childhood
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and then you need to figure out once once the feeling has been done and like
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the person understands okay I’m angry now the anger usually comes out as well and that’s fine in my session you need
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to cry laugh uh be angry yell etc that’s good all good when it comes out and it’s
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usually there’s more grief there’s more sadness there are more tears all of that comes out but Now when that comes out
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and you’ve been with that part of yourself and you’re okay somewhat okay with that part of yourself now it
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becomes like okay so what’s the real plan though now I’m a grown-up again now I’m a very let’s say mature adult and
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now I can make a new plan how to deal with the mother and and how to put up my boundaries um yeah and that’s that’s
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what we do or that’s what I do basically amazing so there there’s a lot of
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healing going on with sessions from what I can can sense also.
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So for mostly yes because sometimes you know a person comes to me still with like um you know predict my future type
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thing. No I sometimes still do it. It’s not my favorite type of thing to do because it really from my experience
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doesn’t do much um for for a person because if this is one of the biggest
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things from my work to take is if you solve these issues gradually if you let
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go of these things then the prediction you can change the predictions you know the prediction that used to be very dark
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and bleak starts to you know there’s more light there you know your business starts to grow you show up in the world
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your relationship starts to heal like maybe the prediction one one time one
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astrologer predicted I will you know separate with my now wife um you know luckily that didn’t came true
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but like this is the point I’m making is maybe the astrologer is predicting like I see a divorce here
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so I don’t like to predict like this I like to say okay so I see problems in
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your marriage in your relationship yes they are coming. Um, but now let’s, you know, work on why, what’s going on with
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you, what’s going on with your partner. Let’s, let’s fix the things that are actually doing the harm or causing the
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harm. Yeah. To to kind of change the outcome, right? Yeah. The outcome. Interesting.
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So, when Well, this is more personal, but what do you do when your own chart
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is screaming at you, but you don’t want to listen? I think this is very hard. This is very
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hard as an astrologer. It’s I think the main thing here is is you learn through
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experience. I I have a I have a like a experience story as well. I had a couple
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difficult uh transit. Uh especially especially difficult transit and um you
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know I know as an astrologer that is difficult. Um, I know the the things
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that are associated with it. Yeah. And I know that you’re not actually
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supposed to trade. I’m I I I I’m a trader sometimes. Some days when I when
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I have the time and I like it, you know, I I do like to trade uh stocks or or
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crypto or you know, whatever commodities. Um but the point I’m making
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I know during this transit it it’s almost impossible to make the right
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decisions in the market and I couldn’t you know I couldn’t stop myself because I was like oh yeah this is a good spot
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this is good place you know these are these this is these uh I would say very outer planet transits these are the most
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difficult for you to assess as an astrologer obviously and you you know sometimes your ego comes in it’s like I
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can change it I can you tweak it here and there and then then the results are good. They’re no they’re not. So yeah.
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Yeah. Don’t do it. It’s possible. So we talk about freedom but also what
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is your your relationship with fear? How do you meet it? How do you deal with it?
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How’s that relationship with fear? Yeah. So I think I used to be afraid of
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basically everything. I I remember even my benchmate in my like ninth to high
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school basically said like you’re a hypochondric like I was afraid of everything and so it was very strange.
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So what I what I had to do obviously a lot of those things I already shared
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kind of have helped but one of the main things I do with fear is the first thing is always to feel it. So the feeling
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part is always like the the the first thing you need to understand what’s
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going on. Again the meditations the the the the presence the the showers everything that I your nature all of
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that helps with fear to feel it. So the next thing is when you can feel it then
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you’re ready to actually do the thing you’re afraid of. So I always like to
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actually go through it. So very early on in my my path, I was like afraid to go
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with, you know, dirty clothes to the supermarket like literally because that was the kind of ideology given to me
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from my family. You don’t go you you you put you know nice clothes, you do this and you know people are looking and what
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they have opinions of you. It’s a very Etoriian thing by the way like opinions
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of other people. But anyway, like like I didn’t even I I couldn’t even do that.
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So I had to do that. I had to go and and you know um do something like that. But
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I give you I’ll give you one thing as well. I think this is a very like this is a very powerful practice.
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Um so these very dark things that you’re afraid of. Uh let’s say you’re in a
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committed relationship, you know, monogous committed relationship. be both of you have given vows or you know
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whatever you did and you are deeply afraid of you know them cheating on you
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like this is something that is like constantly nagging on you constantly thinking about it is so painful and it’s
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so uncomfortable and you you it starts to affect the relationship as well
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so one thing you know this is where you can’t you know go out and do it you know
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you know go red and meet your fears. But what you can do is this is this is I
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would say a practice for the more um advanced u but I do recommend it for
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people who will basically can’t do it. So what what you need to do is take your time. Uh be
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in a private setting. Uh alone for me is is the best one. If you at first need
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somebody to be there with it, that’s fine. But be it somebody who you can trust. So that’s a big one. Now in your
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mind’s eye, you know, close your eyes. In your mind’s eye, go into the place of
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what you, you know, are afraid of. So let’s say you’re afraid of your partner cheating on you. Go in your mind’s eye
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and have them cheat on you with everybody. like the person, you know,
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the neighbor, the the, you know, the per people they work with, everybody
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while you’re doing it, while you’re imagining that, again, the feeling, go into where the feeling actually is and
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actually allow yourself to feel it, feel the fear. So, this is once you do that,
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I I literally promise you, you won’t like do that enough, you won’t be afraid of it. you know you it will lose all of
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its power over you and you will be free from it. But this is the issue that I’ve
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accounted encountered with it is a lot of people are afraid to do it are afraid
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to still do it even if it’s in their mind’s eye that the fear is so big that they can’t do it and instead they choose
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to live in in that fear. For me, that’s very surprising at times,
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you know. Um, but like I I I usually think and believe and I’ve seen this as
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well. I’ve seen this as well that it comes when they’re ready. So, when they’re ready, they will jump in and and
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actually can deal with the fear because underneath the feeling of of, you know,
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being afraid of somebody cheating on you or partner cheating on you is actually the fear of losing their love. And most
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likely it’s not even their love. It’s the love of whoever love you lost. And most often again it’s your either parent
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or a caregiver. Like most like 99% time it’s mother, father,
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uh sometimes like aunt, grandparent. But the Yeah, that’s interesting because actually what
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I what something I learned from you, I can’t remember if it was one of your courses or your your YouTube videos is
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when when you were telling us to learn to feel the emotions, you know, because when
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you’re afraid, close your eyes, tune into that feeling blah blah blah blah or sadness or crisis, whatever.
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Yeah. And and I maybe I don’t know maybe it’s silly but I found it so profound and and useful until today because it
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really you know I take two steps back even now I live in in a place where there is a
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there was a war and so we have the missiles and the the sirens and all these like you know the sounds doesn’t
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help they don’t help. So it really helped me that okay breathe twice okay
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accepting you know I’m afraid but in the end I’m in control. So I have to thank you for that because this is something I
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I practice until today and I remember it was I think one of your courses are your videos because what I think what we do
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as humans is we avoid those feelings you know all the time the discomfort and and
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you know no what you’re saying you know people don’t want to tune into those scenarios because they don’t want to
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deal with the maybe the emotions or the feelings you know so I I found it that completely
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useful until this day But um tell us more about your um your chartical
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placement in your chart that still feels like a wound more than a gift
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and how you deal with it sometimes. Um I have a very difficult
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itself is a very much of um your power
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being taken away somewhere some place usually by the
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father, the son. Some cases it’s the mother. So in some
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charts the the son is the mother, but very often it’s the father. And
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sometimes it does come back. And um again I I basically go with all of the
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all of the practices I I’ve describing to you. I go with with whatever is is the most prominent in in where I’m at
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because I can even give you a a bit of a an example with this because it was like a month ago when it came back
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to for a for a new layer to to heal within myself is it was um
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it’s a repeating pattern I I see sometimes it’s when I perceive somebody um not
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appreciating the effort I put in like maybe the work that I put in, you know, the sun that a
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lot of my creative side comes out into the world to build things and you’re not appreciating that. That is literally the
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same wound with the Pluto square. It’s the exact wound that’s being triggered.
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somewhere else and I will show you and I will make you sorry for not seeing the
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the perfection or the the uniqueness or or the work that I’m putting for that’s
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the the gifts you know the the Leo you know the big one but but the the actual
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thing is actually you know the the opposite you need to go inside you need to understand
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this is very painful right now for me for because they are not seeing my effort, what I’m putting out there.
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And this is this is sometimes, you know, it takes a little while to get through it. But then when you accept the
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feeling, when you are with the feeling, that’s that’s already, let’s say, a victory. Now you can make better
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decisions like, hm, do I really need to leave this situation? Are they not really appreciating or is it you know my
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weird strange story that I keep telling about this situation? That’s where you
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can actually evaluate it from a very grounded place because sometimes that’s the that’s like the truth. You need to
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leave that space. But sometimes again you’re making it too dramatic. you’re making it too painful and you’re there’s
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actually more in that situation that you need to see and to actually maybe even put in more effort and work. So yeah, so
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that’s a that’s a big one. Interesting. Thanks for sharing that. So
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more changing gears a little bit here. Um so once you become an astrologer, um how
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do people react when you tell them you’re an astrologer? and your friends or friends of friends or parents at your
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kids school or stuff like that. You have any stories? Um I think I have a couple. Yeah, you
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usually depending on the situation it’s not so positive but I also have like
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positive stories but like um let’s say I worked worked with a company I did some
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work with them like it work for with them and I I like somehow it came out
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that I’m also an astrologer etc. It was a big thing like it was like so it was a
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very big thing and I ended up uh getting into an argument with one of the people because
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they didn’t really you know they wanted me to pro prove astrology to them. I got got into an argument with them. It’s
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it’s I think it’s not a good idea for you like astrologer to get into arguments because in the end you don’t
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have anything to prove and I I found this as well. If they start arguing with
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you already, there’s there’s no there’s nothing you can basically say. You can basically say their whole life story to
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them like if you want to waste that time and energy, I I would say call it a waste of time and energy, they will
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still not believe it. So that’s that’s like the sad part I would say. And um you know when they have an ounce of
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opening uh meaning they’ve somehow they’ve some place they’ve heard something usually they come and ask more
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questions you know so it’s it’s a more of a positive kind of like a meeting but like for me like my family just like
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completely ignores the fact that I’m an astrologer. They just they cannot deal with that at My family ignores the fact that I’m an Astrologer
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all. They they it’s it’s a you know scientific background science all of my
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grandparents were scientists. One still is in their 80s still is a scientist very you know because of that scientific
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background there was a lot kind of like my one of my granduh grandfathers was in a very high position in a university. So
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that prestige of that science you know that it it doesn’t compute.
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Yeah. Yeah. How come the the grandson is into the things? I can only imagine though maybe exactly
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the perceptions. Um so you were talking about it. So what else do you do?
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Because I know recently launched an astrology app. Mhm. I was surprised when I got that email
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and I was like so happy that you know like somebody somebody’s doing an amazing job for for astrologers. So tell
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us more about that app if you want to share. The app is called Benfic. Um, definitely
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you you can download it on Google Play right now. It’s it’s actually been a pretty optimistic and positive launch
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because we have close to 2,000 downloads and people are enjoying it and leaving reviews. So, it’s a it’s a good one,
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especially um I feel I feel, you know, proud of that work that we put into it
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and there’s obviously more work to be done with it and and you know, our vision because it’s not only me, it’s
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it’s other people as well. Um, my vision and our vision for it is is
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for astrology to be, you know, attainable, understandable for for
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people and and affordable as well. My, you know, one-on-one sessions can be
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quite pricey. But like that app is, you know, the there’s always going to be a
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free version of that app. So, you can literally use it for free. But like the yearly subscription, you
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get everything. you get so much information um for like €699. So that’s
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it’s a very affordable way to kind of learn about yourself, learn about
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others, learn about the world, and understand why some of the things in your life or most of the things in your
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life are the way they are. So yeah, I I definitely I I have one foot in the IT
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tech industry. I I I can develop things. I can, you know, put put pieces together. So I I like that world as
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well. And and more, let’s let’s put it this way, more astrological software is coming. Uh it will be definitely my
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my path more. Oh my god, that’s so exciting. I’m looking at the app. That’s why because I
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have the free version now and it’s giving me like my, you know, daily transits and other stuff. So I really
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recommend Oh wow, that’s such a nice illustration of my chart. Like the way you design it, it’s very cool. And I
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don’t know if you’ve already discovered like the natal natal chart part. It’s a little bit maybe hidden uh in the menu,
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but there’s an natal chart part as well where we basically translate your entire chart, your entire aspects, uh your
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house cusps, your planets, your your houses, everything. There’s there’s also
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that as well. So that you get also in the free version, guys. So literally go
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I’d recommend you go and download it and and you know get to know um astrology even even if you’re like
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very beginner this I was going to say yeah yeah it’s for you as well it’s not you
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know you don’t have to be a crazy astrologer type person to enjoy this app and and get to know yourself a little
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bit more. Yeah guys go ahead I have it here and yeah there is a cost report
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aspect report planet in house planet in sign so it you know even if you’re a
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beginner I think this could help you you know tons to understand planets signs
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and your own you know through your own chart so thanks for developing that and
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um and for you know if you’re going to do astrological so keep us posted by the
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way I’m going to leave Ian’s um uh website and the link to download the
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app. I’m going to leave it in the description, guys. So, in case you want to check it out, you know, there is a free version so you can, you know, just
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go there and explore a little bit. And talking Yeah, talking now about your your app and your business and
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everything of the business side of astrology um has challenged your sense of freedom
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the most. That’s a freaking hell of a good
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question. Um I think I think um you know when I got
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into this business my intention you know you always think about yourself
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as well but my intention because I was helped by a lot of people before I arrived where I’ve arrived um and I keep
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arriving I still have mentors and people around me to kind of help me but like
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the point is my intention was to help people. That was like that was the only
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kind of underlying current why I even wanted to get into the business. Like yes, you know, you get to free work on
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your own time, the kind of freedom to travel, etc., etc., but that that was
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the main core. And when I got into the business at first, it seemed like whoa, so people people are like that as well.
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And then you know a couple of transits hit um and I started seeing actually you
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know the dark side of astrology as well and astrologers as well and I think that has really challenged
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me in a way where I was like do I even want to be associated with these um
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types of things um and it it got got to a place where I was like I can’t let
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like maybe a few dark people stop me from from doing like the initial vision
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what I had in mind to do. Uh so you you know what I would urge people to
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kind of maybe do with this is when you have an astrologer saying things to you
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that seem like they’re manipulating you through fear um and they’re not really
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giving you ways out of it. how to navigate it, how to work with it, how to
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live your life in spite of these transit that are coming to kill you or something.
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Uh, unfortunately, that’s a real thing, you know. You know, you know, this is
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where you need to be careful and you need to understand that this is maybe not the person for you
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and I would urge you to look elsewhere as well because this is what is has
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happened to me a lot is a person comes to me from these astrologers and say
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this and this and this said to me that I’m going to die that I’m a bad person.
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This is a big one. There are astrologers out there who give consultations to
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people and say that there are mean and evil people and then people come to me
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and like am I a bad person and I’m like looking at yeah you have some maybe challenges here and there but you know
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it doesn’t mean that you’re a bad person you need to work on these things. Um, so I’ve I’ve seen I’ve seen the darkness uh
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of this business and um I wasn’t enjoying it and I hope uh people stop
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and maybe maybe I have some maybe I have some uh word to say about
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this and how to change it hopefully in the future. Yeah. I know that’s a good advice what you just told us about if if it’s
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causing you a sense of fear or threaten or if it’s threatening your emotional
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vibration or something maybe that’s where you should pause and just think if
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you know as you said what we’re feeling or what is what he said that made you feel like that and probably stop and
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look somewhere else. Actually we were talking to another other astrologers about this and you know in the end you
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resonate with certain type of people and astrologers as well. So in the end we
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end up choosing our astrologers but I think the recommendation you just gave is very useful.
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So just one maybe piece because one sometimes you can go through a very difficult transit. Maybe it’s a Neptune
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square opposition and then that comes in and then you’re confused and they’re you’re kind of like misguided almost and
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it makes makes you kind of um go down a wrong path and I I know why these people
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are doing they’re doing because then you will go again and get another consultation get pay more money then
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they will give you something else. It’s kind of like a vicious vicious cycle. Yeah.
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Yeah. Interesting. So, well, the next question I think you already gave the
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answer, but it was what’s something about the astrology world that you think needs healing?
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I think it’s really related to it. I I think it’s very related to that. And I I think it’s it’s um
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you know, I I it makes me sad. It makes me really
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sad that it’s happening, but it it does almost like raise the bar for you guys
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who are maybe more on the side of of like the consumer of the business. Uh
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to raise your bar a little. Obviously, astroers have to meet you. This is unacceptable that this is happening. But
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like, you know, maybe it’s a it’s a practice for you to to understand and and develop some of your
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senses a little bit more, you know, because this is where where I’m I’m conflicted with saying this because a
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lot of these people are, you know, in in very vulnerable positions and that’s why I don’t like it because it’s you you’re
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supposed to help empower these people out of those vulnerable positions into more powerful position. That’s the like
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the job of the sources not to tell the future uh with you know what will happen
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in a negative way. Yeah. Scary way. Exactly. Scary way. So the last two questions are One Astrological Truth for You (and all Libras)
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if you could transmit only one astrological truth to the world what
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would it be? That’s a good
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Oh yeah. Um, one truth.
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Yes, I have actually a good answer for this. I think at least I think it’s a good one. Um, so you can actually free
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yourself from the shackles of astrology. So what do I mean by this is let’s say
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you’re a Libra ascendant Libra moon um
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son and people constantly tell you you know you have a trouble you have trouble making decisions you constantly weigh
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things here and there you can’t make the decision one way or the other and people are really frustrated with you and
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you’ve al also you have a responsibility there you’ve taken that persona on it
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doesn’t mean that You have to be like that. You just have to figure out and
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again very often for Libras it’s actually the the fear underneath of what
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happens if I make the wrong decision. That’s why I’m so afraid of making the
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decision right now. You’re helping me understand my husband now. So go on.
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He’s he’s weighing. I know. Um but but like very often it’s a fear of of making
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the wrong decision. And what does that fear mean? If I make the wrong decision,
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who am I? What am I? Am I like, is my mother going to yell at me? Is my father going to yell at me?
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Are they going to take away their love? So, I’m still that little boy or girl who who is afraid, deeply afraid of
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making that wrong decision. And now, if I make the wrong decision, is my spouse
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going to come at me as an adult? Is my boss going to come at me as an adult? and yell and then I’m going to have to
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feel that same pain all over again which is most likely the case which um which
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unfortunately there’s no because this is this is way this is the way the scenario
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plays out because if you don’t make decision decision they come and yell at you and scream at you and they tell you
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this and that so you have to feel it anyway. Now
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there’s there’s almost no escape from this. Um so you have to kind of feel it.
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When you start feeling that fear and experiencing that most likely these
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images will come and memories will come from the past to you. Then it will open
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up a new world and you will see like okay so if I make a wrong decision and
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they yell at me I just feel the pain and move on with my life. and and then the
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wrong decision becomes less and less scary basically is is what I’m saying.
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But you have to do it constantly because especially if now you’re an adult,
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you’re in your 30s, 40s, 50s, whatever, 60s, that belief has just it has so like big
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roots underneath. So it will be much harder to kind of um eradicate. But what
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I’m saying to you is there’s a way out of it and you can actually start making um better decisions quicker. Let let’s
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put it this way. Or or even like first and foremost doing making decisions
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quicker without having so much anxiety and fear of making the wrong one. Being
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okay, I know this is going to come. I know this fear is going to come. I’m prepared. I as an adult am prepared to
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make it. Yeah. Sorry. They’re muted.
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I was saying that’s very insightful and sorry I was coughing and and yeah I can
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yeah I can relate to that. I have but my partner is Libra son and yeah it it
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really resonates now. understand where is it coming from when he’s like no yes and he’s checking with half of the world
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about something and I’m like just just buy it or don’t or like just you know
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because a lot of it was also you know Libras had to get that input from from
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the caregiver or parent as well like the okay like this okay you can do it and
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yeah like an approval or something like an approval so that’s that’s a big part portion of that as well you know
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parents Uh parents sometimes we do things that
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are not good for our children. Well, I guess everyone is trying their best with what they know.
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Of course. Of course. I get it. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. And finally, um
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what current or upcoming transit do you personally find most inspiring or
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challenging and why? So I have two I have two one positive
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one very negative. Um I’ll start with the negative then I go with the positive. So we end on a positive note
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opposite my sun and mercury both at the same time. Um most likely I will I
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already let’s say because I receive also visions and premonitions of of what’s
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going to happen from a personal experience from personal level as well for for the people around
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me. Um I already know one of the let’s say close ones in my family is going to pass
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during this time during this transit. And it’s like the vision has been given to me to to kind of um let’s say grieve
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it all in in advance because I know it’s coming and it’s going to affect a lot of it and you know I’m almost like I’m
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almost like preparing for the difficulty that is uh coming and I know it’s coming and um it still scares me a lot
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but it’s okay at the same time as well. So this is what starts to happen with you. It’s like the death and the life,
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they start to melt into one at times. You’re still you’re still human. You still feel the grief and the emotions
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and feelings. Yeah. But like when you have a lot of these spiritual awakenings and experiences
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like these these notions of life and death, they kind of they melt into one.
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Um that’s on a negative note, but on a positive note, uh I will have Uranus
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conjunct my Jupiter already have almost happening. So, it’s uh pretty exciting. I’m receiving
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downloads. I’m more I don’t know these types of ideas and um things things are
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happening in a lot of ways and I I can’t even describe. It’s it’s it’s a pretty pretty exciting transit to have.
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Well, you just released your app. No, that Yeah, it’s obviously that’s one of the things
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Uranus technology Jupiter Jupiter is actually the third house uh ruler as well. So it’s a lot about you know
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marketing, sales, webinars, um technology. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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So there’s good good things happening as well. So this is maybe a good thing to end with as well. If you if you’re
1:00:05
having a difficult transit, there’s most often there’s something positive in your chart as well that is helping you
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through it or or helping with it, you know. Ian, thank you so much. Tell us just um
1:00:18
quickly if you what do you have in mind? Are you going to teach courses again? Are you doing your consultations? Are
1:00:24
you opening seminars? Any new books? What’s what’s up with you these days besides from the app?
1:00:30
Definitely. Definitely. I’m I’m I’m co-creating this is already been finished. Uh let’s say an astrological
1:00:38
uh calendar for 2026 that will come out uh the couple of weeks, three something,
1:00:46
four weeks from now on. it should be uh available for sale and uh yeah I’m going
1:00:53
to start teaching more definitely I have a lot I have I have to do because I have so much material on for the second part
1:01:00
of how to make the best deals yeah I think that’s brilliant I was
1:01:05
going through it again and I’m like oh my god like maybe I maybe I won’t put this in the interview but yeah you
1:01:11
should like re revamp it or reopen it or something there’s so many like gold gold
1:01:18
pieces. I don’t know how you say it. I I’m probably going to do it. I don’t have a timeline for that yet, but I want
1:01:26
to do it and I want to teach it because there’s so much information I’ve gained uh through experiences and and um
1:01:33
awakenings and other things. Yeah, consultations. Consultations. Yeah,
1:01:39
consultation is also open. I’m I’m I’m probably going to change it, tweak it a little bit. So
1:01:45
for me the the main part of of why I do consultations, I want to work with the
1:01:51
right people at the right time and um why I’m probably going to go down the
1:01:57
route of creating a community who will
1:02:02
get to know more of the intimate uh side of the freedom astrologer and and get more intimate materials and those people
1:02:10
will get access to consultations as well. um this is what I’m thinking just because
1:02:16
then they will be more prepared to do the actual work and not just go with the you know predict my future type thing.
1:02:22
This is this is where I’m kind of headed with with uh the consultations. Yeah. Or just like and can you get me
1:02:28
feel tomorrow you know without going through any person. No, I get you. I get you. And it’s very difficult.
1:02:34
Yeah. Are you still on YouTube? Yeah. Do you Yes, I’m YouTube. I I have I have a new
1:02:39
channel which is called freedom channelneled um where I do channelings
1:02:45
let’s say intuitive channelings the messages I do receive these are more like a general guidance
1:02:51
sometimes a very personal guidance and then I’m I do I have the freedom astrologer astrology channel as well
1:02:57
where still a lot of interviews videos just lot of free resources you can get
1:03:03
started with there’s I don’t know like 300 800 I don’t know anymore.
1:03:09
I remember I follow it thoroughly and and your interviews, not your videos with Tony and and and then the cosmic
1:03:16
adult series you had and Yeah. And and currently the one you have the freedom channel.
1:03:23
Yeah. Um I was telling Ian before we actually started recording that it’s like having
1:03:28
a daily like um five minute sometimes 10 minutes like astro tip in a way.
1:03:35
Yeah. Basically combined with with his intuitive um gifts. Let’s call let’s let’s call it like that. So I I find
1:03:42
them very useful when I just I’m in the bus or I’m walking and I just want to listen to something that
1:03:49
nurtures me. I I turn into into your small videos.
1:03:55
That’s really uh good to hear. Uh just maybe a word of warning. Sometimes
1:04:00
there’s little bit not all the time but maybe there’s a little bit of a almost
1:04:06
like a shadow work type message in there as well. So it’s it’s I I mostly
1:04:12
maybe I I do receive I would say positive things but there
1:04:18
are things sometimes that I get that are you know necessary for people to
1:04:24
understand from a very difficult perspective as well like like
1:04:29
there’s something we need to look at in ourselves to to be better people um
1:04:35
around all all around let’s let’s call it that. Yeah. And I think it it’s very honest
1:04:40
from you to do that because I mean not everything can be positive all the time. You know for in order to have light you
1:04:47
need darkness. So I think it’s completely normal but yeah it depends obviously how people take it. But that’s
1:04:53
not your problem in a way you know you’re just sharing what you are seeing
1:04:58
or feeling. So I think it’s a great um channel the the new one. I really like
1:05:04
it. Thank you for doing that. And Ian, I really hope to have you back someday again. I have more questions, but I also
1:05:10
need to honor your time. So, thanks for being here and sharing with us and getting real. Is there anything else you
1:05:17
want to say? So, definitely if if you want me back, I I enjoy uh giving these types of of
1:05:23
interviews, enjoy telling telling stories about healing and and astrology
1:05:28
and whatnot. So, definitely we’ll be back. Um yeah guys take your time for
1:05:35
the next years. Um it will be a wild wild ride. It won’t be easy. Um the
1:05:44
better you are with yourself, the more in tune you are with yourself, the
1:05:50
easier it will be for you. So if there is one thing to kind of work on or
1:05:58
understand more, it’s yourself. And if you put the effort there,
1:06:04
no AI or anything can take away your job basically. It’s um I think it’s a
1:06:10
investment worth making. Yeah. Oh, beautiful. Thank you, Ian. Thank you
1:06:15
so much and thanks for tuning in and see you in the next episode. Thank you again, Ian, and see you soon.
1:06:22
Thanks. Bye.
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